[Standard] NUF FM 2 - GAME OVER (MAFIA + NEUTRAL VICTORY)

[EVO]

I mean, if Wind’s progression wasn’t wonky I’d have agreed with them that PKRs reaction alone was reason to sus, but now they claim that as their weakest point LMAO

[WindwardAway]

I have my reasons, and I gave some of them already. I don’t trust myself to read people off emotional reactions because I’ve been pretty consistently bad at it, and I rarely factor in AtE. Think the last time I factored in AtE was when scum!PKR was about to get yote and I suddenly decided he was too wolfy to be a wolf (oops) and saved his slot like an idiot lol.

[WindwardAway]

and that was in the joat13 game

[lol]

@WindwardAway

not actually jokes
so you can’t just assume the ninja sleepwalker claim is fake because of the timing; Eli could fake claim as a joke, but he could also decide to out his claim right there and then because he felt like it.

he said it was serious, i believe he claimed that but i think its a fakeclaim is what i mean

@WindwardAway

Taking into account the fact that he voted immediately after Aelin, however, indicates at least to me that they are not W/W because two wolves voting one after another seems like something they wouldn’t want to do.

ok this part is the most important imo
was pkr a spicy vote at the time or he was kind of consensus poe/suspicious?
how near were the votes timewise?
was he around or did he pop out out of nowhere?
i’ll go check but if you have answers already go ahead

@WindwardAway

If we want to go into the “did PKR already know who Aelin was” territory again, Eli didn’t know that Aelin had switched pronouns until someone told him, by the way.

yeah aelin told him, i remember that. didn’t think it was super ai tho, it seems like everyone was kinda confused by this and how aelin was presenting themselves in the thread

[PokemonKidRyan]

I consistently AtE’d though. Even managed to get in and win in the finale by forcing a perspective of my “scum” partner

[Intensify]

AtE + Pocket Light

[WindwardAway]

@lol

he said it was serious, i believe he claimed that but i think its a fakeclaim is what i mean

ahh ok, I misinterpreted what you said.

@lol

ok this part is the most important imo
was pkr a spicy vote at the time or he was kind of consensus poe/suspicious?
how near were the votes timewise?
was he around or did he pop out out of nowhere?
i’ll go check but if you have answers already go ahead

it was after the PKR/Eevee thing (that I said was either T/T or T/W after I had read it)
Aelin voted PKR and Eli literally voted right after, and they were both in the thread so it was very fast and within a minute.

[Intensify]

Aelin apparently voted PKR as a meme vote so it’s pretty NAI

[WindwardAway]

@WindwardAway

Aelin voted PKR and Eli literally voted right after, and they were both in the thread so it was very fast and within a minute.

because of this, actually, I called it opportunistic because I thought Eli was jumping at the chance to vote PKR
but knowing now that Aelin was scum, it looks way less wolfy

[WindwardAway]

NAI for Aelin, but how weird does it look if a second wolf votes immediately after the first wolf places a meme vote? I think it’s AI for Eli.

[Intensify]

Well I mean Eli said that the vote reminded him to vote on PKR, which then apparently triggered Aelin for some reason so she starts voting Eli cause “bad reason lol”??

[WindwardAway]

@Aelin

/vote PKR

EVO hasn’t posted yet :^)

@EliThePsycho

/vote PKR @Zone_Q11

just realized i should do this

two minutes, sorry, not one

[WindwardAway]

so you think it’s scum theatre?

[Intensify]

There’s some posts in the Aelin ISO that have been weirdly defensive of PKR

[Intensify]

No?

What type of wierd scum theatre is this for Eli/Aelin?
I actually think this looks better for Eli tbh.

[WindwardAway]

yeah, same thoughts here
I asked if you thought it was scum theatre because I misread what you wrote lol

[WindwardAway]

@Aelin

This is fair. Just going by the numbers, there are probably 3-4 wolves, and I really can’t imagine that there’s more than a single wolf on the EVO wagon regardless of their alignment. So, that leaves at least 2 or 3 elsewhere, and if we’re trying to narrow it down, looking at the no-voters the only one whose been actively scummy to me is PKR, although cdecora is absolutely null to me. Still tr’ing Eevee, even if he’s getting slightly annoying.
For simplicities sake, I’m going to say there’s probably ~2 wolves on the Marl wagon, and we can obviously discard min and Marl, so, just looking at the votes…
WindwardAway - Obvious progression throughout the entire day. Whether or not it was correct is another story, but the vote itself makes sense.
clonedcheese - At first I didn’t remember too much progression, but it actually does exist upon looking back (this is where the ISO failed me last time and deleted my wallpost so shoot myself). Vote is, once again, logical for where it is.
lol - As soon as I think about this, all I can think about is the like… seven people pointing out that it looked like they were trying to chainsaw Marl/Wind who are two extremely strong players in their own rights. Even more than that, they were on the wagon because they were sheeping Wind, removing literally any blame from themselves.
EVO - Self-pres, NAI.
Intensify - Stated he didn’t have a read on either, and that despite two of his townleans were on EVO’s wagon, Wind and Cloned had a stronger case which he agreed with. On the vote, he basically told Marl to try and convince him which isn’t terrible , but it was very obvious that Marl wasn’t going to do a lot of convincing.
EliThePsycho - Voted Marl on the basis that wagons were tied, which is meh… a couple hundred messages prior he was telling people to sheep him on EVO, though, and instead of trying to convince more people he just decided he didn’t want tied wagons about 20 minutes before EoD instead of waiting.

So, just in these votes, if I had to do anything I’d probably put these guys in

T

Wind
Cloned
EVO
Intensify
Eli
lol

W

just quoting this here for my own reference cause there’s something I wanted to look at in context with this
do what you want with it lol

[WindwardAway]

Aelin didn’t really give reads on anyone else which… gave me a thought

[lol]

ok yeah i read through it
not w/w but a good look
don’t see why wolves wouldn’t jump on a guy like this but i can see why they would be afraid to

in a world where it isn’t w/w aelin saw eli pushing pkr and decided to start a wagon on him, and could probably push eli later because he was rather agressive with pkr, judging by how she instantly put suspicion on him here

@Aelin

I have, and I’ve given my thoughts on PKR/Eevee already
Why’d you wait until I voted him to vote?

and even voted after
pkr in this world is also a townie

in a world where it is w/w it’s just aelin and eli starting a wagon on a guy and then a bit of theatre of aelin distancing from eli and voting him because ‘‘ew wagon’’
paranoia here is rather unnatural, guy was pushing pkr for majority of his iso and asking eli here ‘‘why is he voting pkr’’ is a dumb as fuck question from aelin, enough to be theatre
pkr in this world is only slightly townie

[WindwardAway]

@lol

in a world where it isn’t w/w aelin saw eli pushing pkr and decided to start a wagon on him, and could probably push eli later because he was rather agressive with pkr, judging by how she instantly put suspicion on him here

@Aelin

I have, and I’ve given my thoughts on PKR/Eevee already

Why’d you wait until I voted him to vote?

and even voted after
pkr in this world is also a townie

is PKR town in that world because of how Aelin’s using the vote on him to pivot toward Eli? or because she’s defensive of his slot later on?