[Standard] NUF FM 2 - GAME OVER (MAFIA + NEUTRAL VICTORY)

lol said he agrees with your read and was going to shift back on to me from eevee later
but yes the rest haven’t commented on me at all

At some point I do want lol’s reasons for sheeping me in his own words

you would think at least eevee or pkr of all people would have a read on me by now given that they’ve played with me for 4 years

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Well, I know eevee doesn’t explicitly give his reads and just implies them
but he hasn’t done much other than say that lol is suspicious for misunderstanding him
And that whole interaction was also weh so idk

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Gonna admit that I’ve actually never misread eevee when backreading or speccing games he was in, but I’m starting to doubt my initial read on him here.

We have about 8 hours left in the day and there isn’t even a wagon people are agreeing on

That’s also more or less why i expect to die.

top wagon having only 3 votes on it in a game with 15 players is pretty bad

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ISO Evo and tell me if you think he’s town

You just got done wolfing against him so i figure you should be able to make some kind of take on him.

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I also just finished wolfing with PKR and haven’t found him to be wolfy here, but he’s also been kind of absent from the thread for a while.

Let’s start with this, it might help us find some kind of middle ground.

Would not oppose wagons on:
Aelin
PokemonKidRyan
clonedcheese
lol
Intensify
EVO
eevee

Against Wagoning:
EliThePsycho
Tilgarial
GonZ
cdecora
an_gorta_pratai
min
WindwardAway

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(not ordered within tiers)

that was a quick ISO
his early posts don’t ping me as off from how he acts as town
it’s really just the part where he blew up in the thread and then he didn’t make any sort of useful posts after that, other than saying that reading him as not w/w with eevee was weak.

I didn’t like his no exe vote post. It reminds me a lot of how a friend on MU wolfs. He always tries to force a disinterested tone because most people perceive it as towny because wolves would usually be more invested in the game

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(If there is a wolf in this it’s probably in the newbies or gorta)

Would not oppose wagons on:
Aelin
PokemonKidRyan
lol
Intensify
EVO
eevee
EliThePsycho
Marluxion
GonZ

Against wagoning:
ClonedCheese
Tilgarial
cdecora
an_gorta_pratai
min

also not ordered/tiered
there are some people very close to the line between those two categories, but I figure if they’re close enough to the line then they go into the “not opposed to wagoning” category

I considered that, but I also considered the fact that I used to be very disinterested (as town) in making readlists on D1. Mostly just a confidence issue, though, and it resolves after the fluff phase is over. I know Cloned also dislikes making reads early in the game and has gotten ML’d for it.

But EVO didn’t just say he wasn’t going to read the game; he specifically voted no-exe which I guess is a little different. I don’t know if he’s planning to change his vote or not, though, so I was giving him the benefit of the doubt for that and waiting to see what move he’d make. I feel like although I’m not opposed to yeeting him, I’d rather give him another chance and not yeet him immediately. I don’t think there’s really anything wrong with waiting to make solid reads until after all the night actions and the night kill happen, mainly because I generally think the same, and I guess that’s only a problem if you think you’d be the NK target (which I’m guessing EVO is not, at this point).

See he didn’t say any of that. And from his posts it doesn’t even look like he’s saying that. He’s just mocking people for taking d1 seriously. It might not be a wolfTELL but I do think it’s way >rand w

does he have that different of a tone than he had in the Thing Game, though? (he was Joy_Eevee there)

I mean yeah, he went full in on D1 and ended up voting Eli probably on my lead, but the mocking tone part I think is actually NAI for him.

I disagree