[Standard] NUF FM 2 - GAME OVER (MAFIA + NEUTRAL VICTORY)

yeah
it’s partly a way to say I confbias myself too easily and take my hypothesis as a conclusion and don’t always look at the other half of the possibilities
but also just in general it outlines a more effective way to solve the game

So which question do you start with though?

up to you

Weh.

Probably one of the alignment questions.

The “what do scum want” and “what do other voters want” requires some thinking and assumptions on roles so there’s a lot more possibilities and I don’t have much brain power for that.

I should be looking at individual alignments first but I ended up looking at “what are other voters doing”
and realized you never self-pres’d because you kept your vote on PKR, even though you could have voted EVO to untie the wagons

Yes I did that. That is a fact

in contrast to lol who did place a vote EVO to self-pres, despite TRing EVO

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weh I managed to derail myself already from focusing
in my defense it’s 2 am

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We don’t even know which question you’re answering bruh

this

Ok let’s start off with something simple.

Final vote count and who was there during EoD.

EoD2 final votecount

idk how far back you’re counting as “being there for EoD”
but I believe the first two voters on EVO were not there

lol was present
gorta was present
Wind was present
EVO was present
Aelin was present
Tilga was present
Intensify was present

Eli was absent
Cloned was absent
GonZ was absent
cdecora was absent
eevee was absent
PKR was absent

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Part 1 was about HOW to analyze stuff to not jump at many times at once.

Part 2 is harder.


Time for a story!

Let’s say Steeve is in middle of mafia game and did EoD 2 research and wanst to present results to others, but they find it hard to believe and understand it.

Why does it happens?
How to help Steeve?

You see, person doing the research is obviously IN it and understands own thoughts, while others possibility didn’t even reread or remember EoD.

In this case we are speaking outside of listener’s world.
When explaining it’s important to stay inside it. Or broden it in understandable manner.

As picture above shows, researcher knows background, shows details and conclusions… but public not knowing the background themselves find… themself lost in the process - “So what?”.


In this case, presenting some BASIC and UNDERSTANDABLE to public list of what happened, to help them remember and get to see same world as we do would help.

It’s already good that in our story Steeve plays same game as others, as it means they are at least partially into Steeve’s research topic. Otherwise it would be even harder.


So our Steeve presents basics for his research.
Background.

But how to help Steeve for them to understand actual research?

Obviously stay on same topic, don’t jump around. But that was already covered in research part.
But… there is more to it. Steeve could learn some psychology.

First of all Steeve wants to interest people, so he should start with WHY is this topic of analysis, not WHAT is the topic of analysis.
Exactly… like this post :wink:

Second of all, visuals and quotes help. But don’t overdo them.
There is no need to quote every single post of someone to say your conclusions.
But singular selected ones you used and support it the most will help and keep attention on the topic.

Third of all, telling a story. Be it a Steeve. Or be it another player, whose world you want to show from as certain alignment PoV.
Make them feel the story and see how it connects and explains what could happen.
Paint the world around them.

Last but not least, if someone has questions… you should be there to answer them, especially that due to point number two you do have some quotes hidden for better explanation if someone is asking for them to understand it more.


Did I do this post in a way to follow own advice?
Possibly.
Steeve thinks so at least.

If you need more materials or explanation about any of the points how to present stuff so it’s understandable and catches attention, just ask. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Thank you. :+1:

:joy: Same. At least for reading analysis.

Think Wind is catching up on lessons from Eevee since… Wind wasn’t around for the original course back in the day.

Part 3 would be how to CONVINCE people, but I will leave that to myself :wink:

How to do analysis and how to present it to keep people attention and for them to understand works.

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EVO is going be raging I’m trying to teach people how to talk instead of giving him viable reads, lmao.

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can confirm lol

Uh huh…

I totally understood what Eevee presented I guess…

So…

Make case
Do the scientific method.

Make case look readable.
Answer the line of thought that comes from a reader (that being a simple TLDR into So what into Evidence and proof)

Profit
Make cash money

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To finish the lesson - I will give you a single question.

Which part was more understandable to you and caught your attention more?

Part 1 (the plain talk about how to do analysis)
or
Part 2 (employing the part 2 advices into… part 2)

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