[Standard] NUF FM 2 - GAME OVER (MAFIA + NEUTRAL VICTORY)

no i’m watching general confrence

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sigh

We have become the trees we once laughed at

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:palm_tree:

i guess I’d be a palm tree

Something something everyone will magically show up 30 minutes before EOD and EOD turns into a disaster once again

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Please do not ping me till day 5.

sorry for my absence, another game i singed up for a long while back started on NUF and it’s nearing EOD1 rn. I can’t say why because no talk outside game and stuff, but it ain’t gonna affect my activity here anymore after this, no worries

have ya finished your check?

EVO just casually having my reads SMH.

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as for the general Eli vs. PKR…
I’m more inclined to think Eli is town.
they are definitely not w/w. the interaction wind(?) quoted about aelin and eli voting PKR says that. no way those three are in the same team. i could see aelin with either of them, though, for varying reasons
what mainly buys it for me is gonz the watcher.
As somebody else already pointed out, both watcher and vanilla cop being on the same team seems unlikely.
to expand upon that:aelin was a 1-shot magistrate.
while it’s only a singular one, the mafia roles we know of are also weakened.
we currently think there are 3 wolves, at the very most 4, yes?
a game with both watcher and vanilla cop, where mafia roles are weakened and there are 3/4 wolves to 12/11 town/neutral?
added to that, PKR is still alive.
he outed himself D2, and it’s now D4.
granted, both nights we lost a valuable PR. D3 the doctor, and D4 the watcher.
neither of which actually said their role; so it would have been mafia guessing at most. at least, I’m fairly sure neither of them revealed anything.
so, killing a random unknown PR twice in a row or a cop?
the cop would be so dead if I were mafia, which had been bugging me yesterday already. but I couldn’t point it out, because if I did, him staying alive could have been mafia trying to have him lynched and save a kill, as well.
The only world in which the order of kills makes sense, in which PKR is town, is if mafia knew who had which role and didn’t have to worry about his ability of seeing vanilla/non-vanilla. which… just doesn’t make much sense. even if, in some wonder, mafia has a role-cop, and just so happened to check exactly those two… PKR’s ability should still be worrying them, no? apparently not

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The cop is a vanilla cop.

Unfortunately not an alignment cop and therefore mafia has no real reason to worry about me.

I don’t understand why people don’t suspect the fact that each time I’ve checked someone they’ve died the next night.

Like how does this not scream “frame job, make PKR look bad”

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I still haven’t even revealed my night 3 check.
Just that they’re someone I townread.

I wonder why nobody has picked up on it or pressed me on it.

Maybe it backs up the fact that mafia don’t feel threatened by me. And that town doesn’t really care right now.

The second factor would make me lean that Eli is innocent just because their lack of WiM is something I understand at this point. The only good thing we’ve done all game was tie a fucking D1 wagon

did ya get another PR check?

rewording:
did you have a vanilla check?
incase you are town;
if you found a vanilla, you might be advised to out them, if they are town. it’s gonna get interesting to see if mafia lynches somebody that’s basically confirmed, or a cop.
if it’s another PR… depends on the person. it’s possible we have another couple PR’s hidden somehow, but it could be mafia
in case you are mafia; just out them. might as well know who dies prior to night phase

I found a vanilla role.
Didn’t I, Tilgarial?

are you gonna share or keep it to yourself?
actually, maybe somebody else has an opinion on this, and we do still have time. I’m interested to see what others think

Facepaws
Yes, I would love to see what others think first

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hmm…
okay, then let’s construct a world in which you could be town, since you’re already here.
what this needs:
since we have both a watcher and a vanilla cop at a playercount of 15, it’s gotta be 4 mafia, i think.
if that is the case… there is going to be more than one wolf outside of our PoE

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Potentially more than 1 outside of your PoE.
I already have a few people in my PoE.

My inner PoE is Wind and Eevee (Because Deepwolf paranoia)

My outer has been lol. But I would put Gorta in there simply because I have no reason to townread them

full playerlist:
Wind, Gorta, eevee, eli, intensify, EVO, PKR, lol, Tilga.

if it’s 4 mafia, 3 are left

one could be eli. it would explain aelins weird reaction when eli followed her vote on you, the one that wind quoted

I don’t think either aelin or eli have enough interactions with most to determine an easy generalized interaction level.
hmm…