no, it just doesn’t make much sense.
individually, I could maybe see a deepwolf being among us.
but two, maybe 3?
that basically means Wind, EVO and intensify all at the same time, yeah? maybe with eevee replacing one.
that’s just… no way
I could see Intensify as scum acting like village idiot.
But I just don’t think it’s fake enough to be an act.
It feels genuine.
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in that world, intensify is town.
you are town. I am town.
lol/eli cannot be w/w → max 1 mafia.
remaining:
EVO, eevee, wind, gorta. 2-3 mafia
gorta… I still think gorta is town.
I don’t think EVO/eevee are a team, otherwise they put on some serious theatre? max 1 mafia.
lol/eli → max 1 mafia.
EVO/eevee → max 1 mafia.
…Wind, all alone with one mafia slot unassigned
it… it could be possible. or maybe there is one less mafia? but with a watcher and a vanilla cop together… it’s gotta be 4 mafia, right?
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We have to have 3 or 4 mafia.
I could easily see 3.
Since we already had an antitown neutral.
Which like semi counts as a bonus scum member
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I just finished my check! Sorry, had some friends over till now and we were playing board games. 
I did press you for it earlier, but I think you misread what I was hinting at lol. Anyway, I have a guess at whom you checked and the results but I wouldn’t necessarily clear someone just for being vanilla. There has to be a mafia goon, I’m pretty sure.
I’ll give you exactly what I wrote up earlier in my notes that I was checking up on. Just give me a couple minutes.
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So what I was checking earlier was the wincons of the flipped players, and whether I was allowed to discuss this in the thread in the context of solving. I got a green light, so here ya go.
Aelin’s wincon
GonZ’s wincon
Note that Aelin’s wincon is not just “reach parity with the town”
Mafia can eliminate town down to the level where there are no town players, meaning that eliminating all the town can’t possibly mean the only players left are mafia.
Mafia knew there was a neutral role in play.
GonZ’s (and Marl’s, min’s, Cloned’s) wincon says only that they win when all mafia have been completely eliminated, meaning that there is no hint of a neutral existing and more specifically that there is no neutral which directly poses a threat to town (such as serial killer). Why do you think I suspected that Intensify could be a jester at some point? I assumed that there was no neutral role, or that if there was, it was a neut who posed no direct threat to town.
the 2-3 is the problem.
if it’s three, it’s almost assuredly Wind.
…or maybe gorta? but there’s no reason gorta can’t be w/w with wind too…
but no, gorta is almost assuredly town. it just doesn’t make sense otherwise?
so yeah. if it’s 3 left, wind is almost assured to be one. and then we could go from there rather easily, probably.
but if it’s only 2, the PoE is back in a thing, and Wind has a fair chance of not being a deepwolf. she’s just too town, too much effort?
I don’t mind being read correctly for being town here, but I do put effort into my wolf games. Ask anyone who’s seen me wolf lol. The only one in this game to say they could easily read me if I’m a wolf has been Aelin, and well… Aelin already TMI’d me as town on D1 tbh.
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A better question to ask is actually, if you remember that Aelin was just following my vote between lol and Intensify at EoD2 before she got randed out, do you think she would’ve been following my vote so freely and hard townreading me if we were W/W?
and why is Eli suddenly town? Like Eli’s behavior and interactions with Aelin are VERY wolfy and resemble his scum games
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cause cdecora wanted a no exe, town was split on whom to vote out, and some of us decided to just go with the no exe for various reasons. I don’t think all of us had the same reasoning on it tbh, but I was fine with it specifically because I wanted to buy time to rework my readlist instead of yolo yeeting. Personally I wasn’t confident enough in my PoE because it was so messy, and it’s less messy today.
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huh, i didn’t even realize.
And I’m the one who had the neutrals in mind in the beginning! orz
though, that begs the question: is there another neutral?
because even if decora had survived till the end, and we found another mafia, that’d still be a 1v1 situation, which is parity anyways?
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but did you read the thing I pointed out earlier? when Aelin voted PKR and then Eli immediately voted PKR after and said “thanks for reminding me to place my vote on him”?
also I was out with work, but I am available for the next little bit again
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