Ehh, i actually wasn’t aware how many votes were on me. There was some voting me earlier in the day phase, and i didnt remember whi unvoted/cited somebody else.
That said, it’s also the easiest way to prove my point. I don’t need to argue that wind is mafia, which i most likely would fail with today. All i need to do is flip town, and watch them be lynched from the graveyard
i meant, if intensify is mafia then my readlist is fucked lol
because i’ve made the assumption intensify is town
but this sounds even more like a setup than Intensify saying he’d yeet PKR if you flip town.
you’re saying if you flip town, I get yote, but in that case so does PKR, and I don’t actually think either of us are scum.
don’t make me regret thisBut do you believe PKR is scum.
Cause otherwise I will 100% lockvote PKR tommorow if you flip town
Tilgarial, here’s the thing - scum can afford to lose a wolf right now as long as they ensure a villager gets yote the next day.
Town cannot afford to lose more town today because it sets us up for failure after.
Voting yourself in an effort to guarantee someone else’s yeet later on is a terrible move for a villager to make when we’re so close to LyLo, and so I don’t think it’s a town move at all.
Additionally, you’ve mostly been going back and forth and solving with me, and as soon as I finally push you now, you decide that I must be a wolf?
Well… maybe my RT’s aren’t natural-seeming yet, i guess I’m still learning
Lol wasn’t, I’m fairly sure of that.
And despite the townreads you’re so sure of being on me, the ones who townread me - intensify and PKR - easily voted me in the early parts of the day after a bit if talking-to from you.
So no, I don’t think the townreads on me are that strong/relevant
It’s also about his tone, his reaction, and simply the chill and “this doesn’t concern me” that he shows. He wants easy answers, and whule that ain’t exactly a good thing, I wouldn’t say it makes him scum.
It’s not about the pressure. It’s about the flip. This feels like a setup to me, and I’m basically 100% sure it is. The only way for me to prove that, though, is by revealing I’m a town vanilla. The only way to do that is flip.
If my life get’s town a mafia, I will spill my own blood
Tbh that was a big point of my RT there, seeing your willingness to lynch eli.
I’m not sure if he’s your scumbuddy or just a town you wanna keep around because he isn’t active/doesn’t have the right reads, but eh.
See, here is the thing. From my perspective, you are setting me up, and have been most likely planning to do so for 2-3days. That probably includes arguments about my alignment, and who knows what else.
Considering i have, before this game, no info on anybody here, just like none of them have info on me, I doubt i have very much pull. So, convincing everybody this is a setup isn’t gonna work.
Alternative is showing why and how this is a setup, and then giving the one proof nobody can doubt. My flip.
I’m fairly sure PKR is town. Not 100%, but confident enough to at least ask you to reconsider and see what is actually going on tomorrow
You’re right, if town is lynched today, that puts us into lylo.
Current: 5/2
→ lynch town
→ 3/2 tomorrow
But here is the thing. If i can guarantee a mafia yeet that day, it’ll then be
2/1
the next day. And amongst three people, it’s gonna be hard to hide. As long as town keeps calm and considers, I’m sure i can trust 'em to win.
Partially. The talk about him being setup by mafia lynching all those he revealed also has merit, although that’s possibly just mafia taking advantage.
If he actually were mafia, he could have tried using his ability to gain a sheep following and lynch people he didn’t want around. Instead, he ended up being basically on the sidelines due to doubt and loss of support
I mean, i was already thinking it when we were solving, lol.
It was rather clear, wasn’t it?
The cinclusions we came to were basically clear on the fact that one of us had to be town. I was only waiting to see if you’d be pushing me today or keeping it for tomorrow.
I even tried seeing what you’d do with a possible out on this seemingly lock-like situation with the one post about possibly mafia having affected our info somehow, be it ability or manipulation
But it didn’t go very far, so eh
ok, fair point.
and yet you didn’t use the “this doesn’t concern me” argument to townread EVO on D1, when EVO showed very little interest in the game at SoD and you ultimately decided you’d rather vote him than Marl.
it’s not about the flip for me. The reason I specifically said the town could be you/Eli was to see what you’d do with that information, and as I thought, you latched onto the Eli thing. For an RT, if you say so, but you still latched onto it by associating your flip with Eli’s flip, when I’m not even association reading you two.
well, the RT goes both ways. I read it as you possibly TMI’ing Eli as town.
yes, but have you considered that I could be town tunnelling you, and all you’d be doing is guaranteeing that we flip two towns? If you were town, you would’ve also considered this as a possibility, but instead you’ve essentially thunderdomed me with you.
and that’s fine by me, thunderdome me and make people choose between us, but if I get yeeted first, even if you flip wolf, I’m not confident enough that the remaining town is going to figure out who the last wolf is. It’s not because I have an ego and think I’m good at solving, but it’s because the thread’s been extremely quiet today and such a lack of discussion will lead to an inevitable ML.
Speaking of lack of discussion, the only two people who have been trying to get a discussion going here are me, and surprisingly, Gorta complaining that the thread was dead, which I don’t think I’ve seen him complain about before. NAI, but still a bit weird because he could’ve started some sort of a discussion instead of coming in to ask why it’s dead and then just leaving without giving any further thoughts.
yeah, you’re right, because I also said that earlier. And I guess if both of us are town then we’re screwed already, but I’m not convinced of that.
I’m pushing you today because I’ve been much less certain, if you’re a wolf, who your partner would be, but I think you distanced very well in any case. Reading the remaining living players off “would they do this as scum” gave me Intensify/PKR/EVO as town and the rest as PoE, so the only way it’s wrong is if my analysis has a hole in it that nobody has pointed out to me yet. But I’m kind of tired of doubting and restructuring my readlist when I keep ultimately arriving at the same conclusions as the day before, so I think that towncore stays fmpov. It’s just between you, Eli and Gorta now.