Alice scum.
Quotes a game where Alice was town in an attempt to prove that she’s scum.
Derps does not care about making even the slightest amount of sense this game.
He’s town.
Alice scum.
Quotes a game where Alice was town in an attempt to prove that she’s scum.
Derps does not care about making even the slightest amount of sense this game.
He’s town.
You know, at first I thought that Vulgard had just wandered into a random game that he wasn’t even in, but then I read that he had replaced Ami.
Townreads:
Centuries
Leafia
Napoleon
Derps
Italy
CRichard
Chuck (slightest lean town. Revisit if PoE is not flipping scum. Could be a misclear considering how bad his reads are. Currently reading this as TWTBW.)
PoE:
Blizer
Mode
Frankie
10_posts_daily
Chloe (wolf wolf wolf by the way)
Haven’t read Blizer/Mode/Frankie/10posts.
Time to do it now.
On a skim, 10posts seemed salty in a wolfy way, so that’s a thing.
I meant to say CFM2 lol
Anyways I’m sorry to say Vul but it looks like you replaced into a scum slot
Which is why I read you town. I feel like you would try to make the read sound legitimate instead of not bothering to double-check what game you’re referencing.
Clearly the read made sense to you, so you posted it based on your gut feeling and did not think twice.
Say whatever you want. I’m pretty sure Chloe is scum, though.
Possible
I call bullshit that you belive this read
This is garbage
The only two PoE members that I disagree with you on are Mode and Chloe, as I think that both are town as Chloe was a lot more tense in Insurgency as scum and I’m not seeing that now. As for Mode, he’s been a lot more analytical than he usually is in his wolf games and is almost the complete opposite of how he was in Insurgency. Granted, he wasn’t like this in CM2 either but I think he learned how not to act as town from that game and applied it here.
Vul could I have something more from Chloe other than lol openings
These feel tacked on, fake, and performative. “I’m not afraid of anything!”
[quote=“Chloe, post:468, topic:82340”]
come at me
Its not just the RT that pinged me the wrong way. In fact, I didn’t like him before I was even told it was an RT, as seen below:
In fact, part of the reason I dislike this slot is because hes acting very similarly to how I did in Insurgency. Like he knew he did something dumb, which was his random push on Frankie, and his “im the town hardcarry” shenanigans, and he claimed it was an RT as a get-out-of-jail-free card. I think if it were an RT, like he says, and he planned on doing it no matter what, as he says, he would… at least come up with a stronger RT that could… ya know… provide some insight?
I don’t have any mechanics to go off of. I don’t have any flips to go off of. Its true that I dislike his tone and content - but i’ve said more than just that one sentence - i don’t like being cherrypicked ):<
I’m liking Alice’s posting a lot. I find that when she posts something, I usually end up agreeing with it. I might be biased because she’s the 1 person who I recognise here, but I really liked the two posts below!
[quote=“Frankie, post:382, topic:82340”]
I don’t disagree with you here. But keep in mind what Alice (and I) said about meta can come from any alignment. It’s almost equivalent to saying “guys don’t quickhammer this early into the day” - its kinda just common sense and not AI imho
like this. this shit is common sense. also seth is kinda talking to nobody in particular. kinda seems like saying shit just to look like hes providing content. will check up on this later
TIL taking a stance is scummy ):<
guess i’ll hedge till the end
what’s funny is i almost feel this exact same way about you on my slot. but i can probably chalk most of that up to OMGUS
come at me
I’ve already said that I don’t remember like, any of the games I’ve played with you, minus one. And I kinda wanna keep it that way. I don’t want “meta” to cloud my judgement.
Ye it’s possible he could be LHF, but I don’t think so. Needless to say, the game has gone on for what… 4 hours? Out 48? I don’t have to rescind immediately. I’ve got all the time in the world - and I don’t see much that makes me want to change my mind yet
Note the highlighted.
Uses “track me at night or something,” a classic wolf defense, because her inner thoughts are telling her that her defense won’t save her from suspicion on its own.
Tunnel on Nappy later feels like she’s just actively ignoring the possibility of him being V. She’s underestimating his intelligence.
track me
check me
attack me
RB me
i dont care
i aint superpower, shrug
Performative stuff again.
Her wallposts are mostly just her explaining her thoughts instead of providing content. I know this sounds weird, but her explanations do not qualify as content. She is doing more explaining than pushing stuff.
The reason Nappy wasn’t providing his reads was because he wasn’t finished with his “RT” on Frankie - but not even within an hour he decided to say that it was an RT. And a pointless one at that, if you ask me. He didn’t get shit from it other than “his response felt genuine” - which ??? fuckin everyone will say not to read them based off exclamation points, regardless of alignment. I don’t think saying any of this is AI, and Napoleon said that he was planning to start the game off with RTs and acting cocky, so like, you’d think he’d actually put effort into thinking up some that might provide results?
I just don’t understand how he got to this conclusion lmfao. I can’t tell if it’s Napoleon just being a dummy (sorry Nappy) with an RT he thought was useful, if it was purposely planned, and fake, so that he could get credit for doing an RT, or if it was an excuse for his earlier weird behavior (which I think is likely).
This whole situation reminds me of how I acted in insurgency, after being barely pressured. I used the “lolselfresolving” argument as a get-out-of-jail-free card, and I think he’s using “RT” as one here. I understand that I’m absolutely biased on this perspective.
Like, this tunnel is just so narrow. RT RT RT RT RT. NAPOLEON SCOOM BECAUSE RT BAD. RT BAD RT BAD NAPOLEON SCUM.
Can’t find a better reason?
I disagree with the first post above (and I included the second for context that he didnt towncore Frankie) - but I do see how it can come from a dumb-RT-from-a-townie POV. I don’t think a wolf would have pushed much agenda back after being pushed for punctuation lmao. Its a bad reason to push anyone regardless of alignment. I just don’t see Frankie’s reaction as AI. However, I do know we are more inclined to believe we got something out of an RT, if we are the person who started it. Just like how I think I’m getting something from Nappy not answering my superpower question, whereas other people don’t view it as a big deal. We’re both biased - and I can see an argument for this being townie perspective.
Her posts might just be padded like this to look townier. Padding instead of content. Just say “Frankie’s reactions was NAI, Nappy didn’t get much from his RT, the RT was bad, and I think it’s wolfy.”
Note: she did not say that the RT was wolfy. Her whole argument is that the RT was bad.
In an attempt to ignore this bias I did a full re-evaluation of the slot (after a shit-ton of sleep) and I do agree that everything he’s done could come from shitty townplay. He hasn’t backed down on his RT being ass, hes pushing people for dumb reasons, but everything he’s done post-RT/superpower has felt genuine. Hes bringing up past games, in which he was wolf and did things… very similar to this, which is a stupid thing to do as wolf - bring attention to how your behavior this game is acting like your behavior from a past scumgame.
All-in-all, I still think this has scum-equity, but since my original push on him, he hasn’t done too much that has made me want him dead today. I would honestly love a check on this slot. But I’ll let him go for now.
(However if he is scum im 100% saying i told you so after the game :^) )
/unvote
It seems she has realized it.
and if any one of you calls this hedge
im going to use my dayvig on you
The self-awareness is so unnecessary here.
I admit that her later posts look townier than this, and overall volume is a >rand V look.
I’ve barely interacted with Chuck and you think im groupscum with him?
asldaksdlkasd
how the hell do i fit into this LMFAO
Decent response to Seth’s theory, actually.
Vul could I have something more from Chloe other than lol openings
Consistent and notable difference across literally every game she has played. You think it doesn’t matter?
As for Mode, he’s been a lot more analytical than he usually is in his wolf games and is almost the complete opposite of how he was in Insurgency. Granted, he wasn’t like this in CM2 either but I think he learned how not to act as town from that game and applied it here.
Gonna read him now.
Note: she did not say that the RT was wolfy. Her whole argument is that the RT was bad.
And that gives me the heebie jeebies, because it could indicate that she’s not looking for scum, she’s looking for bad plays to push as “wolfy.”
I call bullshit that you belive this read
I’m relying more on the towntell and less on that, so you could say I don’t believe it much, but it’s a start.
Hi wonderful people!
I have quite a bit of things on my plate for the next few days, so don’t expect too much activity. I’m spending most of my free time just reading up.
I’m liking this vulgard guy, but I think he’s spending too much effort on chloe. I think that she has a fairly good chance at being mafia as well, but if she dies to poison tonight, which she should, there is no reason to put that much time and energy into her
Consistent and notable difference across literally every game she has played . You think it doesn’t matter?
If it’s hot consistent with a town or scum meta does it mean much
What is this supposed town tell
Here’s my thoughts on Vulgard: When I first read what his reads were, my first thought was that they felt fake and like he just slapped down a readslist without thinking of who should be on it and where. For instance, him saying that he’s 100% convinced that I’m town feels like he has TMI that I’m town as well as being an attempt to pocket me. No townie is ever convinced that a person is locktown without reading up on the whole game. His later analysis of Chloe does sound a bit better, so I’m not 100% convinced that he’s scum yet, but he’s in my PoE and I have a slight scumread on him.