[Standard] WoW:BfA v1.1 - Alliance Victory (2/16)

[ChopChop]

@CRichard564

So is Alice the only one you scum read for pushing on you?
Or another way to phrase it, why town read everyone except Alice for voting you up at some point?

I have a slight scum read on Centuries but I haven’t interacted with him much.
The reason my focus of read is on Alice is based on the consistency of interaction we had.
As that helps me determine one’s alignment.
So no, I’m not Town reading everyone else.
I have yet to go over some people.
I’ll tell you that I am Town Read You, Chuck and Town Lean on Napoleon.

[Alice]

What consistency?

[ChopChop]

@Alice

I know how to deal with the backlash of ML’ing a villager as you’ve seen in CFM2.

Why do you think W!Alice here would be unable to deal with the backlash?

I disagree with Light on this one.
I feel Scum Alice is able to almost replicate their town meta but with just slight differences.

[ChopChop]

RN I’m trying to find more differences to have a stronger case.

[Aelin]

@ChopChop

I disagree with Light on this one.

But… I didn’t take a stance…?

[ChopChop]

@Alice

What consistency?

Amount of Interaction between us.

[Alice]

…this is literally the definition of an agenda.

[ChopChop]

@Alice

Seth had no SRs before I pushed him.

This usually happens when he’s a wolf.

Now he’s actually playing the game.

That’s a lie.
I said I was slightly scum reading Centuries before you voted me!
As Dybu Dabu Says:
Caught Scum!
Vote Alice or Loooser

[Centuries]

@Alice

No idea why a villager would ask this question, tbfh.

Thinking there’s a fair chance that Chloe is the superpower and was trying to test if Napoleon was groupscum or not.

Would probably ask for tracks/roleblocks on her tonight.

I could see this as wolf

but then it’d mean lost wolf alice

[Alice]

Quote the post?

[Centuries]

@ChopChop

I said I was slightly scum reading Centuries before you voted me!

Fairly sure you didn’t

[ChopChop]

It was a response to CRich

[CRichard564]

Alright fair enough.

[Centuries]

Oh the Century post right

[Centuries]

@ChopChop

I’m Town Leaning Leafia and if Century flips Scum I’m putting Leafia as Town or Lost Wolf.

@ChopChop

I’d have to look more into the thread but for right now I’m slightly scumreading Centenary For Reasons that others have pointed out.

xx

[Alice]

…that’s just a pre-flip.

[Centuries]

Not the centenary one

[Alice]

Oh, yeah.

But I felt odd how he wasn’t chasing after you like what he’s doing to me.

[Centuries]

Yeah so everyone who SRs me is parotting the one Choe post where mentions OMGUS despite herself not believing im scum?

[Centuries]

[quote=“Chloe, post:468, topic:82340, full:true”]

@Centuries

/vote Chloe

come at me

@Centuries

Like honestly, Napoleon isn’t all black or white, it’s really grey but it looks really like the RT pinged her the “wrong way” and now she’s just pushing him hard

Its not just the RT that pinged me the wrong way. In fact, I didn’t like him before I was even told it was an RT, as seen below:

@Chloe

I dislike how you’ve been acting lately. Your “hardcarry” shenanigans seemed non-genuine

Your entire argument for disliking Frankie rubbed me the wrong way. You even pulled a hypocritical move after stating that you usually scumread people for using exclamation points (by using a damn exclamation point) - which seems like you pulled the punctuation argument out of your ass
You also had a complete cop-out answer with my question regarding the superhero. I don’t really believe you didn’t read OP before this game lmfao
Seems like playing dumb

In fact, part of the reason I dislike this slot is because hes acting very similarly to how I did in Insurgency. Like he knew he did something dumb, which was his random push on Frankie, and his “im the town hardcarry” shenanigans, and he claimed it was an RT as a get-out-of-jail-free card. I think if it were an RT, like he says, and he planned on doing it no matter what, as he says, he would… at least come up with a stronger RT that could… ya know… provide some insight?

@Centuries

I don’t think the entirety of Napoleon’s play post RT can be defined as “bad tone/content” in one quick sweep

@Centuries

My point is that it looks to me as if Chloe is pushing a scum agenda because I do not truly believe town would be SRing the entirety of Nappy’s ISO and then classify it as “poor content and tone + bad rt”

I don’t have any mechanics to go off of. I don’t have any flips to go off of. Its true that I dislike his tone and content - but i’ve said more than just that one sentence - i don’t like being cherrypicked ):<

@Frankie

I’m liking Alice’s posting a lot. I find that when she posts something, I usually end up agreeing with it. I might be biased because she’s the 1 person who I recognise here, but I really liked the two posts below!

@Alice

Meta is a crutch.

Avoid using it as it’s impossible to use it if you play on a large site like MU.

@Alice

/vote Centuries

I agree with her on Meta, mostly. I do think that some people might have a LHF Meta and may need to be treated more carefully, but usually, Meta reads can be used to justify reading any player as any alignment, if things are cherrypicked. This can come from town as well, and that is almost worse! A town member can think they have a good case when in reality they have been ignoring the games that do not support their case because they want to be right.

I don’t disagree with you here. But keep in mind what Alice (and I) said about meta can come from any alignment. It’s almost equivalent to saying “guys don’t quickhammer this early into the day” - its kinda just common sense and not AI imho

@ChopChop

While meta is a thing.

It isn’t always trustable.

@ChopChop

Sometimes it’s better to trust your reading skills over looking at someone’s meta.

The only time I look at someone’s meta is if I’m having difficulty determining someone’s alignment.

like this. this shit is common sense. also seth is kinda talking to nobody in particular. kinda seems like saying shit just to look like hes providing content. will check up on this later

@Centuries

I mean clearly Alice actually went back on her read while Chloe took an actual stance so I think Alice is town there meanwhile Chloe scum

TIL taking a stance is scummy ):<
guess i’ll hedge till the end

@Centuries

Her side is mindlesssly pushing someone who she thinks is scum while being very agenda-y

what’s funny is i almost feel this exact same way about you on my slot. but i can probably chalk most of that up to OMGUS

@Napoleon

/vote Chloe

I’ll just park a vote on here since Alice isn’t getting much attention. Will read more into Chloe later

come at me

@Napoleon

I’ve highlighted why Chloe and Alice stick out to me. They should know (They’ve played with me quite a bit) that I wouldn’t normally genuinely push people like this based on their knowledge of my meta (I did this in SFoL61.5 too) and the fact that they are bringing attention to it and shading me is

I’ve already said that I don’t remember like, any of the games I’ve played with you, minus one. And I kinda wanna keep it that way. I don’t want “meta” to cloud my judgement.

@Centuries

She just went off on one of the 3 biggest LHF in the game because he tried to make some dumb play and didn’t actually rescind compared to others

Ye it’s possible he could be LHF, but I don’t think so. Needless to say, the game has gone on for what… 4 hours? Out 48? I don’t have to rescind immediately. I’ve got all the time in the world - and I don’t see much that makes me want to change my mind yet

@Centuries

@Chloe

dont sheep me

am bad

make own reads
[/quote]

(not what I wanted to add to my post but I have this quote hanging around)

It’s probably a joke but the timing is fairly bad

half joke
half truth

i dont wanna be sheeped (shept? fuck if i know) because
A. I could very well be wrong, then its my damn fault if we lose. Pressure wont help me think well
B. People need to provide their own content

@Centuries

He seems way too careless about the game state early on.

His openener is also pretty non serious compared to the one he made in Community Mafia.

@Centuries

He seems way too sure his RT is some glorious idea and I don’t think Mafia would plan this far forward

Disregarding the mention of CFM2, I can see where you’re coming from. I disagree with your belief that mafia wouldn’t plan this far forward, cuz i dont think it was planned at all lmfao. As i said earlier, “RT” can be a get-out-of-jail-free card. Almost equivalent to claiming self-resolving, but not quite the same level

@Alice

I have an extremely weird tinfoil regarding Chloe, tbh.

@Alice

No idea why a villager would ask this question, tbfh.

Thinking there’s a fair chance that Chloe is the superpower and was trying to test if Napoleon was groupscum or not.

Would probably ask for tracks/roleblocks on her tonight.

Honestly didn’t think about the fact that this could implicate me as the superpower.
I asked this question as a non-FoL form of “what groupscum do you think rolled? unseen or cult?” - like you would ask to the starting king - and was hoping for a concrete answer. Depending on what the superpower ends up being, it could be a bad look for him if he “guessed” correctly. His lack of response irked me, as it seemed like a cop-out. Hard to be held to it if you don’t give an actual answer

Needless to say, I’m fine with tracks or offensives on me. From my pov its kinda a waste of abils (especially if they’re limited in charges), but at least it’ll make you happier about my slot

This is the post everyone SRs me for lol