[Standard] WoW:BfA v1.1 - Alliance Victory (2/16)

[an_gorta_pratai]

I remember Alice jumping from Nappy to SDA to others, but I have a vague idea of other peoples agreements/disagreements and such

@Italy

this is “bleed the alchemist” level gameplay that allows me to only assume that the superpower is a lolwolf or gorta

You underestimate my power! Joking aside, I wouldn’t do such a thing. It does upset me that you would think I would do that as scum, but it’s whatever I guess. Now I need to go to sleep very soon

[Napoleon]

She’s been like “let me self-resolve” since Day 1 and she wasn’t even wolfread just because a town read her.

Chloe is a hyperposter and she wasn’t scumread by Day 1. I find it strange that she’s not trying to convince anyone as to why she should be healed. It’s not like Ami where most people thought she was openwolfing, Chloe was TR by a good portion of the thread.

So if she is town, she should share this info now because the benefits of confirming her info is real is better than the minuscule off chance that Chuck might be lying about who he visited granted that we already have mech info on them.

I’ve explained this over and over again. The odds of Chuck lying are low. If he lies, he’s caught by the FM. Now that Chloe outted she has info on Chuck, theres no way he fake claims if he is W in a scenario where Chloe is real

Chuck will not lie. So let’s prove that Chloe actually has some mech info instead of trying to create a thunderdome that probably won’t end up happening!

[Napoleon]

Can we stop trying and hoping that Chuck and Chloe get into a thunderdome and rather actually just prove Chloe?

[Napoleon]

I’ve explained my logic why Chloe should out and she still hasn’t. If she’s real she shouldn’t have a reason to refuse.

[Leafia]

Why does it matter so much whether she’s telling the truth when she’s literally dying tonight? That’s what I can’t figure out. Getting pulled away by RL too.

[Napoleon]

because there are WORKAROUNDS to it. For example scum can have HEALERS too. She literally a hyperposter and she’s unconcerned about threadstate. She’s literally a TR and she wants to SELF RESOLVE without any concern for what’s gonna happen afterwards

And she won’t out her info. If she’s wolf she can easily say “yeah I confirm Chuck visited” this guy.

[Napoleon]

Anyways @Chloe

If you don’t out your info before Chuck does I’m lynching you, bleeding or not

[Napoleon]

/vote Chloe

[TheBlueElixir]

Jettison Count

Accused	Voters	Votes
an_gorta_pratai	ModeShifter, SirDerpsAlot, Italy, Leafia	4/9
Vulgard	Centuries	1/9
Chuck	CRichard564, Chloe	2/9
Napoleon	10_posts_daily	1/9
Chloe	Napoleon	1/9
Frankie	Vulgard	1/9

ping me for mistakes

Edit:
ami is now vul, vul voting Frankie

(not counting votes past this post in this post)

[Leafia]

There’s an easy workaround to that though. If she doesn’t die tonight and no one claims to have healed her, then we lynch her.

[Leafia]

And if someone does claim to have healed her, we lynch her anyway.

[Leafia]

I also don’t see how Chuck is mech resolved in the slightest. All we know is that he can visit. Like every class in the game can if I’m not mistaken.

[Chloe]

bro

why are you being bipolar

what the fuck did i miss

[Chloe]

ive been playing overwatch lemme read up

[Leafia]

At first I thought Nappy was asking me this for some reason.

[ChopChop]

@Leafia

@ChopChop

They call me Greedy but I’m like nah fam. I’m just a Horde r

Mode’s first post but with it being early in D1, not the worst of openers.

@ChopChop

Ok there’s not much note worthy things yet.
But the one thing I will bring up is @Alice still has their vote on someone who has arrived and is yet to take their vote away from them.
So I’ll keep an eye out to see if Alice switch’s vote or for some reason actually makes a scum case on them.

His first analytical post. I kind of like it because it provides reasoning and shows why he suspected her and I can agree with his reasoning somewhat.

@ChopChop

I brought Chuck into this game.
I hope he’s not scum or we’ll all be fucked.

Not really AI I think.

@ChopChop

Chuck is a Good Player.

Just something I thought was noteworthy. It almost sounds as if he’s defending Chuck a bit which would be a tiny bit scummy this early in the game. I don’t recall if Chuck had even posted yet at this point. If Mode does turn out to be scum, then Chuck could possibly be a scumbuddy, but it’s far from certain. I might be reading too much into this.

@ChopChop

@Frankie

I’ll admit it is not my forte. But I still think that it is not a good thing to read somebody on the way they type, especially because you don’t know me! I’m getting the feeling that you are serious here, and I think that your push is full of very faulty reasoning.

/vote Napoleon

This will stay here until you have provided some evidence to back up your claim young man .

Now we wait to see what Napoleon shall provide!

Not a bad look for Mode to be honest. He’s willing to wait to see Nappy’s defense before making a decision. Slight townlean here.

@ChopChop

@Alice

Nap feels weird, tbh. There’s more fire to his posts when he’s a villager, but then against I’m seeing no theatrical bullshit that he uses does as a wolf so far.

Well considering there isn’t any Neutrals in this game we can take that possibility out the window.

I’m glad of that too. No neutrals to worry about is nice.

@ChopChop

Nap is either Town or Scum Trying to improve his meta.
That’s how I see it.

Absolutely no idea why this needed to be said. That’s literally the only two possibilities that there are. NAI though.

@ChopChop

@Alice

/vote Modeshifter

Nice!

@ChopChop

@Napoleon

Alice who are you planning on mislynching today?

Bold of you to assume she wouldn’t Buss her own partner.

Hints at being scum here. I feel that’s a good look for him though as I’m not sure he’d only hint at it if he was town. Although there’s a possibility that he’s trying to clue the LW in on the fact that he’s a member of the scumteam without looking too scummy. I don’t think that’s the case here though.

@ChopChop

@Leafia

No more votes on Nappy. We don’t want a hammer to happen this early.

Agreed.
If the votes keep coming and the hammer comes to quick and Napoleon flips Town.
It will cost us allot of discussion time.
Even if Napoleon was outed Wolf I still believe we should make time to discuss.

This is a very good look for him and I’m starting to think he’s town again that was either misguided about Alice or saw through her facade, depending on if she’s town or not.

@ChopChop

@Napoleon

I don’t scumread people based on dumb things like a single “!”. Players like Chloe and Alice, who are familiar with my playstyle, really shouldn’t be scumreading me for this.

I’ll be honest.
I don’t have my full attention in this.
But I also haven’t read too much of you either.
One thing I will say though is that you have a good amount of words with your posts so you are using effort.
That isn’t directly alignment indicative but it’s something.

I’m not really seeing w!Mode being a possibility any more. He’s been mostly protown up to this point and you saw how he was in Insurgency. That might change if new info comes to light.

@ChopChop

@Alice

Do you think our pushes are being in bad or good faith?

I want to intervene on this post by Alice here and just say that Content and Pressure towards a slot is always one good faith, As long as it’s not taken too far.

Not sure I agree here but I think it’s something he believes.

@ChopChop

@Napoleon

What is your read on my Seth?

Your Seth?

Apparently Nappy owns a Seth. I want one too.

@ChopChop

You mean you?
RN your Null for me as I need to have more of an engaging interaction with you however I also really need to get to bed I work in the morning.

This post comes next and it’s clear that Mode is being genuine here.[quote=“Surge, post:504, topic:82340, full:true”]

@CRichard564

Some of his posts in particular. Let me bring them up,

@ChopChop

Maybe Alice knows Frankie

[quote=“Surge, post:116, topic:82340”]

@Alice

…it’s RVS.
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And I shall wait to see where your next vote is.

@ChopChop

I brought Chuck into this game.

I hope he’s not scum or we’ll all be fucked.

@ChopChop

Chuck is a Good Player.

@ChopChop

Now we wait to see what Napoleon shall provide!

@ChopChop

Well considering there isn’t any Neutrals in this game we can take that possibility out the window.

I don’t see how these posts help the town solve who is who.
They seem to be about posting for the sake of posting and not solving the game.

What exactly would you think I would have done in each situation.
There really wasn’t much to go off of currently.
I just thought I’d try and get an idea of the overall gamestate and wait for something that seems important to bring up or something potentially alignment indicative.

This shows that he’s trying to solve the game. More protown points.

My conclusion here is that Mode is most likely town. While it isn’t impossible for him to be scum, it’s very unlikely for him to be scum.
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@Leafia
For all that work I’ll give you a poem later today when I have time.

[ChopChop]

@Vulgard

I’m running out of scumreads. Maybe Chuck is just scum.
It’s possible Chuck is just scum.

@ModeShifter You supposedly hold Chuck’s wolfgame in high regard. Do you think he’s a wolf here?

@Frankie

Hello everyone! My name is Frankie. I’m a norwegian forest cat who lives in the United States. My hobbies include meowing at the neighbors and chowing down on catnip. I don’t bite… usually.

For some reason, you being Norwegian does not surprise me.

@Frankie

I still feel like Chloe’s argument against napoleon, as far as the test goes, I think it’s a poor reason to wolf read someone. The rest of her case was okay, but I do not feel like the reaction test part in general is a good justification at all for that read. I do appreciate the effort she put into refining that read, though! It was a fairly detailed case and laid out her thought process pretty well. I do not really want to focus on her right now.

To address a few things said my way, a lot of you seem to be wolf reading me for being “too nice” or things like that. I assure you that’s just the way I am! I like playing the game but don’t like it when it gets personal.

One last thing, on these reaction tests. What do you people think you are gaining from this? I’ve seen 2 claimed reaction tests so far and honestly, I think that they have both produced nearly nothing and everyone seems way too focused on it.

Napoleon’s test on me was a silly push and has a silly conclusion. Why am I townie simply for finding your read to not be a good one? No matter my alignment, I would probably say the same thing, because I would feel the same way about that point either way. He seems convinced it means I’m a townie, Light seems convinced it means I’m mafia, and then you have Chloe’s thing which concludes what I believe to be a NAI post as a wolfy one.

These things are pointless, and unless you have a very specific idea in mind, I think it just gets everybody distracted and does not help read a person’s alignment. Read everybody (especially me!) off of posting and interactions, not these silly little tests.

I think this is the type of post a wolf writes to seem towny.

Might develop more thoughts later. I think I’m leaving the thread for now.

/jettison Frankie @KyoDaz

Would like to see how this goes unless EoD is soon. Also, I don’t want to jettison a bleeding player unless Chloe gets healed. Do not heal Chloe.

Chuck isn’t wolf.

[ChopChop]

This isn’t his wolf meta

[Leafia]

Okay and thanks.

[Chloe]

@Napoleon

But there is little reason for him to lie when his visit is literally out in the open!

Objectively, it’s better if you just out your info now. There’s no reason to hide it if you plan on claiming it later today.

@Napoleon

@Chloe don’t out your info either

I want to get a few things cleared up first and then I’ll decide what the best course of action is hopefully in the latter part of the day.

@Napoleon

Kinda weird how Chloe so fine with self-resolving when they literally say they have mech info which could possibly clear themselves…

I’m not really trying to clear myself off of mech info. There aren’t really mech-clears in this game since wolves and town alike can have the same abilities. I’ve been waiting for Chuck so I can see if what he says matches with what I have to say. ):<

@Napoleon

Just suppose Chuck is a wolf. If he lies about who he visits then he’s outted by the Fire Mage. The Fire Mage is more likely to be a villager than a wolf, as one, there are better specializations to choose from, and two, even if this is a W/W play, it would obviously be a play for towncred and Chuck wouldn’t lie here, rather instead they would likely use the mech info to support themselves being a townie.

Oh
Okay yeah you’re right LMFAO
You had to put it in less big-boy words.
Part of my brain forgot that theres a Fire Mage who has the same info I have - so I’ve been trying to keep it on the DL until Chuck gets here. Chuck won’t lie about who he visited because someone knows it already - I gotcha. Brain machine has been a lil’ broken.

@Napoleon

Anyways @Chloe

If you don’t out your info before Chuck does I’m lynching you, bleeding or not

Can you explain why you’re so bipolar on this though?
Out your info!
No… don’t out your info…
NVM OUT YOUR INFO!
Like make up your mind holy shit dude.

Anyways yeah, Fire Mage knows this anyways.

Chuck visited Napoleon.