Suggestion: Dayvig Mechanic for Unseen

I want an evil class to have a dayvig ability that immediately kills their target and outs yourself to the court.

Something like:

Day Ability - Desperate Strike (1 use): Murder your target in plain sight of the entire court. They are killed immediately and you are automatically voted up to trial.

Why Dayvig for Evils?

This will make D1 Prince claims very dangerous. This would be the only true threat to an early Prince claim as poisoning or bleeding a Prince doesn’t work since there will almost always be an Alch or Physician to heal them. But killing them straight up in cold blood over the discussion table…sounds scary.

It’s a great ability if you have majority or think you have majority with neutral support. It won’t happen every game as the MM needs to convert a Knight, but the mere threat of an Enforcer on D2 could be enough to scare Princes from claiming.

Who should get this ability?

The Enforcer. The Enforcer is fairly mediocre once he uses his Frenzy, so sacrificing yourself after a Frenzy usage won’t feel as bad if he had better night abilities. Preventing visits to an Unseen is pretty good though, so you’ll have to weigh your options and make interesting choices between wanting to protect long term or go for the short term, high profile kill.

Overpowered?

Probably. Simply because it allows Mastermind to convert somebody the following night after the Enforcer is lynched. However, BD doesn’t have to lynch the outed Enforcer if they don’t want that to happen.

Thoughts?

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D i d s o m e b o d y s a y d a y v i g ?

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Not saying this is a problem but:

1: Enforcer (immediately after convert) fakes sheriff to get someone lynched

2: Enforcer protects self to avoid a knight OR uses frenzy cuz why not.

3: Enforcer dayvig’s someone before he can be lynched.

4: ???

5: Profit

I like the idea but enforcer is already one of the best converts.

How about alcoholic? He’s a bad convert right now.

Day ability: Brawl - Kill target player immediately. Everyone will know it was you (1 use)

I completely agree with this idea. However, i think this should be changed.

What would i change?

Add the dayvig killing ability for Assassin.
Imho, it should be a replacement for Distract. And maybe add the Distract for MM instead.
This would make that it’s always dangerous for Prince to out himself.

But honestly this ability should be also added for Cult. New Cult Killer class?

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So Acolyte?

You’re right.

Thematically it doesn’t make sense for Nightwatch, Duchess, Sage, etc.

Maybe Poacher? Poacher is super good too.

Maybe there is no room for a dayvig with the current classes.

Doesn’t it make sense for an Alcoholic to attack someone in broad daylight tho?

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I’m okay with Assassin being able to suicide bomb (basically) and waste a lynch. It’s a reasonable trade-off.

It does mean that prince can basically never claim untill assassin has used that ability though.

Kinda the point.

Giving it to Mastermind makes more sense balance wise actually. In the first 3 days mm will 100% kill the Prince if he outs which is good as prince shouldn’t be outing the early. After that mm probably wouldn’t though.

It would punish prince for revealing too early but not be too ridiculous.

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I dislike prince claiming early but prince NEVER being able to claim is a tad extreme.

No. He would never use it. They would just wait until D4 and lynch the MM which is not an even trade.

But MM isn’t supposed to kill tho.
I mean, he’s a leader of Unseen so it kinda would make it like a “sacrifice”

Why wouldn’t mm kill prince if he claimed D3 lol. mm is replaced. prince isn’t.

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I know lorewise it wouldn’t make as much sense

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BD would wait for D4 to kill him.