The Artificer and The Smith

Saw thread about classes giving night immunity and such, thought it was good so I’m giving my take on it:

Tried making The Smith as fake-claimable as possible

Ironic I got sabotaged by thinking there was a saboteur

I will give feedback about the class when quote works again btw

The Smith looks good, maybe a bit too powerful with the ability to use both of his night abilities. Can make it harder for scum to kill confirmed BD and prince, but other wise not a bad role.

The Artificer on the other hand looks really insane with the ability to give an assassin an extra charge on their 241, while playing similar to the enforcer and allowing the assassin with both of the artificers night abilities to guarantee the kill on the assassins target. If the unseen get an artificer, he can use bolster to make his Smith claim some what believable, but he gives the assassin alot of power to kill basically anyone. Hone should be changed to something else, i dont quite know yet atm, but the artificer should make the assassin have death immunity at night instead, to make sure he doesnt die, while not crossing over with the enforcer`s frenzy, making him more unique, while decreasing the amount of power to the unseen.

Seems like a good ability for an unseen.

Why do we need this tho? It’s just another frenzy tbf

The smith seems fine btw, it’s just that he/she is kind like a CW + Phys tbh

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You can choose yourself with this ability presumably?

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Wait just imagine restocking all your abilities including restock. That would be broken lul

Just endlessly keep getting frenzy

Just put a disclaimer that it excludes restock if self-targeted

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maybe the word other would help

well not exactly like a CW and Phys

Is Garrison better? And this and CW doesn’t overlap, nor does it with Phys, as heal and night immune have two different functions

moar stuff

This feels bland. There are very few useful situations where this guy is good and if that ever becomes false the utility would be gained in a CW change rather than a new class.

Alright thanks for that, wish the CW had Bolster with its Support Empower but oh well

There wouldn’t be much point. However adding it would be a relatively mindor change.

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