The Icibalus Blacklists - Roles NEVER to include in a custom FM game

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#41

Step one

3 Mafia GOATs

#42

Oh I know! Swap 1 JOAT with Mafia Dreaming God and 2nd with Mafia Innocent Child. Now this is balanced!

#43

No they need to technically be mechanically identical

#44

Dreaming God is fine tho

#45

Fuck mechanic identities. I want balanced game.

#46

Also the Vig and Doc need to be Miller

#47

And the Maf need to be Godfather

#48

Hmm how about this?

1 Cop
1 Ascetic Miller
1 Bulletproof Miller
1 Beloved Miller
1 Hated Miller
2 Mafia Goon
^^^^^^^^
Cop is of course the most important.

#49

Ok but what does each player know about themselves?

#50

It’s a bastard rolelist after all.

#51

Is Elite Bodyguard a valid mafia role? I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a thing but it seems like it could be fun to have.

edit: mafia as in the faction not the game lol

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#52

even worse because they’re even more overpowered

#53

elite bodygaurd is what Knight is
and people confuse it with regular bodygaurds

#54

ye but I mean what if you had a mafia aligned one in a setup where there is a vig or an nk or something
is that dumb or could it work

#55

Lyncher, Dreaming God or any non-NK can be a Kingmaker.
So how about to not include them as well? > >

#56

dreaming god was silly too lol

lyncher is fine because they have a goal imo

#57

Lynchers don’t end up being kingmakers if you make them leave the game once they win
Dreaming God is actually a role that can be used as any allignment and not a neutral
it’s not hard to make non-NKs kingmakers

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#58

by the way Dreaming God is swingy but it’s fun enough to the point where I’m okay with it, so long as you counterbalance its effects somehow

#59

I feel like this thread is a response to a certain lot of things

—> Grand Idea
—> Fates

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#60

In other words until it’s fun role to play, you’re fine if they end up being a Kingmaker?
Not big fan but whatever. /shrug
Goo the best Kingmaker in Mafia games btw - AVGN