The Starting Neutral King - A suggestion

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#1

Starting Neutral King

Passive (Tenacity) - Immune to most occupation and redirection. Your abilities do not count as visits.

Day Ability (Royal Power) - Select to use the Royal Finger on someone or decide their fate.On the use of the royal finger, your next vote for treason will count twice. On the use of decide fate, once a player is on the stand you may force them to be executed or pardoned. If pardon, they are unaccusable for the rest of the day. Royal Finger: Infinite Uses. | Decide Fate: 1 use.

Day Ability (Guards!) - You will be death immune tonight. 4 uses.

Night Ability (Allies) - Discover a players faction. Unaffected by framing abilities. The mastermind will appear as blue dragon the first three nights. 3 uses.

Night Ability (Order Execution) - Attack a player. This will not be shown to the court. Be careful, if the target is exhumed it will appear as the kingā€™s kill. 1 use.

Goal: Survive

New King chances:
65% BD
25% Evil
10% Neutral

I didnā€™t really like OE for neutral king, but I couldnā€™t think of anything else. If anyone else has ideas ill probably put it in.

#2

The chances should be 60 Gk, 30EK and 10neutral

#3

Doesnā€™t this have the exact same problem as the original neutral king?

#4

I was thinking about that but theres already so may people that think gk chances are too low. If it gets lowered any more it wont be good.

#5

What was that exactly? I started playing right around when crier got removed, so i dont remember neutral kings problems

#6

He was a psudo good King (because he was encouraged to side with BD like alch) however if evils started to win he sometimes became a psudo evil king suddenly.

#7

And in the current meta, being neutral king sucks. You get reaped night 2 most of the time.

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#8

I dont think thats a problem. He needs to survive and make himself look like gk, and if evils are winning he should follow his objective and side with them.

#9

That is itself the problem.

If he sides with BD then you just have higher BD King odds. If he sides with Evil then you have an Evil king that you canā€™t scumread.

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#10

This is a loose idea but a passive that shows you to be neutral to the NK? Idk but neutral killer would keep them alive because its the only starting king he can win with

#11

But the thing is with this version if he does side with bd he still cant guard them, which the bd would want to killā€¦ so even if he was siding with bd, evils should keep him alive early game over a king who could guard prince

#12

Irrelevant. They donā€™t know that

#13

Do you think there is any options to fix that? Or in your opinion is a starting neutral king never viable?

#14

I was one of the first people to push for his removal in the first place

#15

Being Neutral King sucks. Get random reaped by reaper. Get poisoned by butler. Pretender attacks you when you run out of guards. So many dangers.

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#16

Pretender and neutral king just shouldnā€™t spawn together.

I love neutral king and I disagree with the severity of the ā€œproblemsā€ it brings.

fun > everything else

#17

This is what the Neutral king card will say if it spawns in games

ā€˜You lose the game.ā€™

#18

Neutral king is so fun.

You get random poisoned.
You get empowered reaped N2.
You get executed for obvious EK.

Not only that, but when the prince dies you are executed cause why wouldnā€™t you protect them?

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#19

I could say the same thing for Pretender.

#20

All these options are equally irritating as any kind of king.