ToS Mafia - Day 8 - (3/19) [Town wins!]

Is there a way i can see the current stats of the game ? Ive bern been scrolling thru but i def have a lot if catching up to do

Stats meaningā€¦?

Probably means VC

@Anjic89

alright

so hereā€™s where Iā€™m at right now

not mech confirmed people:

  • Wazza
  • eevee (canā€™t be SK)
  • Cheese (canā€™t be SK/Witch)
  • Datjake
  • Italy
  • Uni
  • Poss
  • Anjic
  • Isaac
  • Frost
  • Jmw

if I take out the 6 people I personally think are most likely town I end up with:

  • Cheese
  • Uni
  • Poss
  • Anjic
  • Isaac

I think thereā€™s a decent chance Iā€™ve miscleared Datjake ā€“ Datā€™s been pretty townie, but Jake was really scummy; in that case Datjake is almost certainly Witch or SK, not Mafia. Itā€™s possible that Iā€™ve miscleared Jmw off of general towniness, thereā€™s nothing to say she canā€™t be a wolf. I basically donā€™t see Wazza being a wolf here ever. Frost would need to have fixed his not-posting-unprompted-as-scum problem to be scum here. Italy would need to have fixed his inability-to-produce-content-as-scum problem; that I see as marginally more possible but still unlikely. Iā€™m not really seeing eevee go for the D1 bus on Katze ā€“ when Iā€™ve seen him bus D1 in the past, itā€™s usually been on newbies/inactives, not on Katze-y people, and eevee canā€™t be SK, so the only real possibility is Witch.

Wazza/Cheese are basically never a wolf pair. I have a hard time seeing Possessed/Anjic as a Mafia/Mafia pair specifically ā€“ I think he would be doing more of his coaching in scum chat and less of it in the main thread.

if youā€™re on this list and town, I want you to tell me who you think Iā€™ve miscleared and why Iā€™m wrong to clear them

also if youā€™re on that list and thereā€™s a specific reason I should think youā€™re a villager feel free to point it out, I guess

When I am not around? Too cryptic?

On second thought, google translated for me.

I remember thinking that the Jmw/Possessed reactiontest felt kind of fake

like, obviously Jmw wasnā€™t going to believe that Possessed was actually an unclaimed lookout who got a redcheck and proceeded to ignore it for the next 24 hours

and it felt closer to the staged sort of fake than to the ā€˜scum reactiontesting town for towncredā€™ fake? I guess??

do I really believe that of the 9 people who voted me on D1 literally none of them were scum when that was the easiest possible wagon to go on

no I do not

so thatā€™s a PoE of {Cheese, eevee, Jake, Wazza} of which I townread both eevee and Wazza

Mafia would have had TMI that Marshalā€™s check was fake (since they would have known who did the factional kill and been aware that it wasnā€™t in his fake results)

they probably would have seen it as Witch/village rather than as V/V although itā€™s possible they had a Consig or something who checked Marshal

either way I was the objectively better lynch on D2 for Mafia on the grounds that doing so would let them get off two non-Mafia lynches rather than 1? but Iā€™m not convinced they actually behaved as if that was true

I feel like the most likely option is that they were mostly staying out of it

tomorrow morning Iā€™m going to try to figure out who was, in fact, staying out of it

@people who havenā€™t mechanically confirmed yourself

I want to know who your six town in the {not mechconfirmed} PoE are (i.e. the six people you think are most likely to be town out of that group of 11)

thatā€™s
@DatBird
@Possessed
@Wazza
@Frostwolf103
@Anjic89
@Isaac_Gonzalez
@eevee-sama
@Italy
@Universal
@clonedcheese
@jmwjmw27

whoa

I can ping 11 people at once in the same post

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and yet I still canā€™t post in all caps without getting yelled at about whether my post is a complete sentence or not

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me being pranked to check my target NS weakly points to Mafia expecting me to check a Mafia member

the problem is who they would have expected me to check

why are people townreading Isaac? ideally at a higher level of detail than just ā€œmetaā€

and hereā€™s what I get if I assume all of that is perfectly accurate

biggest thinks that donā€™t make sense are Possessed/Anjic and Diggity/Uni on D1

thatā€™s partially explainable by the fact that some scum are solo but could point to me being at least somewhat wrong as well

could maybe see the Uni vote being distancing but donā€™t really see that as plausible for the Anjic vote

would also mean the Jake wagon is a pure 3-person wagon on a villager but thatā€™s not technically speaking impossible