Town vs Bandits - Re-Rolling

[bazingaboy]

Agree that bluestorm/datbird is scummy then randomly lynch geyde

[Emilia]

@Emilia

Next Person to post is a noob

@MathBlade

I agree with that Blue’s reactions were horrible . But if my moon theory shot is right then we would be looking at Geyde as a scumstermind.

[bazingaboy]

[Wazza]

Accused	Voters	Count
DatBird	Hjasik, Isaac, Bluestorm	3
BlueStorm	Mathblade	1
Mathblade	Geyde, Bazingaboy	2

Good Mornin’

[MathBlade]

It’s way too hard to explain at 1 am but mainly it is more know it when I see it and I see all roads point to Geyde

[Icibalus]

@DatBird

Because Hjasik never answered my question regarding Dat over Blue with anything meaningful and she and you both refuse to vote Blue despite either scumreading them and/or saying their posts are terrible and/or saying they are scum.

MathBlade:

It feels like artificial resistance. I feel if Dat was a genuine scumread and you wanted me back on the wagon and make any effort even a bad one to show Dat is a better scum read than Blue. But neither of you do. It’s weird

I know I should of mentioned this in the first long post but I totally forgot to go back and do them… So I feel like the current wagon is extremly weird. So essentially I have Blue, Hjasik, and Isaac on the wagon. Blue felt extremely oppertunistic

BlueStorm:

Theory: DatBird is trying too hard to be flippant about being voted.

with this being their first post pretty much just saying Im scummy for not caring about being voted by Isaac. Literally I dont see why you this wold be your first post. It just feels heavy shadethrowey. They

BlueStorm:

I’m not casting my vote until all participants have, well, participated.

Then he says this which he literally breaks like 12 minutes later by voting Math.

Hjasik on the other hand has pretty much been voting me since the beginning, with little reason why. They have said Im on a scum team with almost everyone and I honestly dont know if this is reaction testing or just trying to stir the pot. There just seems like they are jjust voting me for voting and doesnt have a soid reason at all

Honestly out of everyone on m in this game the only person I can easily put in townreads is Isaac because they seem very genuine this game. Everything they do reminds me of their town games.

Now to Maths point like yeah there just seems to be no resistance to my wagon at all. Maybe I was playing scummy, i didnt mean it. Your push on me earlier feels like the Nier push which was you pushing against me as scum which was very off and felt weird like this push, and thats why I said

DatBird:

So what you are saying is you 100% beleive your town yet your scum, reminds me of a game

IDK what to say, I said it because they angered me at the time. If thats scummy, I guess Im playing like shit. I dont know anymore, my mind feels like mush.

Now compare this to Bird from Luigi’s mansion (a wolf game of his):

@DatBird

The main thing that ticked me off about this readslist is the way he reads me in a completely different manner to how he reads everybody else

So first, I would like to say at the time I was trying to participate and due to my lack of time I thought writing a reads list would be the best way of showing that I’m trying my best to give my ideas and be useful. I didnt mean to tick you off and am sorry for doing so. You were my biggest scum read and it was mainly just a gut feeling. I then went and reread and reread to try and make a solid point against you so it didnt seem like I was randomly voting you and had an argument to why I was doing so. I get called out for random voting and called a sheep a lot when I dont provide this reasoning so I was trying to make a solid argument even if it seemed to you that I was contradicting what I was seeing in villagers as you said here.

Icibalus:

He pretty much reads all his village-reads as village because of their actions; of hunting down wolves. However, instead of reading me for wolfy behaviours, he suddenly brings up interactions in a way that haven’t even been mentioned before.

Now those things I brought up do remind me of wolfy behaviors but maybe that’s your thing I dont know your playstyle the best.

Icibalus:

It seemed to me like DatBird was copying somebody else’s reasoning without even considering it, which makes me feel like he was trying to get me mislynched but couldn’t find anything directly wolfy.

This was all me on the reasoning, even if it wasnt the best, but I’m not a great player as you can see. Imo the way you have been playing since day 3 of D1 and today, have changed my opinion on your wolf status.

Icibalus:

Of course, sheeping isn’t inherrently wolfy, but the fact he acts as if his read on me is entirely unique is reaallly off imo

And lastly this, it was my main way of trying to not seem like a sheep by trying to bring up my own reasoning for voting. If that’s not the way I should approach voting I’ll try and improve and improve. I wasnt trying to make it feel unique I was just trying to provide points of reasoning and if that’s wolfy, it’s my mistake for misinforming yall and I’ll try to adapt for the better.

Notice that in both cases he’s defending himself by splitting the arguments against him and then posting huge paragraphs in response to it, in a rather flail-y manner, while at the same point never countering the crux of the arguments levelled against him.

The only difference is that of his attitude towards Blue, but after I pretty much damned Bird to eventually being lynched on Day 2 in LM I think it’s ludicrous to say he wouldn’t try to change his meta in some way.

[bazingaboy]

That post is way too long for me to pretend to read

[MathBlade]

I agree they are scummy but not necessarily scum, yes.

[Icibalus]

In addition, despite the reads being presented in a different manner, I notice there’s a lot of simmilarity between the way the reads are formulated in this post vs. this post from LM:

@DatBird

So reading through everything here is my current reads
Townleans:
Solic: good town discussion, trying to get people to talk, and actively picking apart everything that people say
Geyde: Pushing people, being a town leader. I see this is as his usual playstyle.
Maxwell: I genuinely believe his AtE with Isaac’s death and feel his remorse for something he didn’t actually cause (it was isaacs fault). Now his interactions with Ici in the begining were weird, but i really gutfeel this town
Wazza: The reaction test was dumb, but his plays trying to get info out of Isaac and Nerbins seems like towny Wazza even if it comes with a lot of unessescary language
Squid: See this as town squid when they started giving their reads early and with talking on who to give the bomb to instead of just doing it behind the scenes. Overall the post that really sold it to me was the one where she didn’t defend herself, its just feels to genuine to fake
Isaac: his flip said so
Null:
Maximusprime: no content @MaximusPrime plz come and play
Celeste: I don’t really remember anything they have done other than vote Wazza, and saying Ici was a whiteknight whatever that means
Eevee: Weird choice in friend, since they are the most voted person atm. Wants the bomb, other than that not much to read
Nerbins: Not much but we know he has passives
Soul: No content, and when someone pointed it out, they talked about pushing inactives being sometimes scummy
Scumleans:
Ici: His interactions where he seemed to try and pocket Wazza, Isaac, Squid, and Maxwell. Then he pushes Solic in what feels like you point out my flaws Imma vote you. In that regard imma vote you sir
/vote Ici

I think that their meta dosen’t look good for them this game. That combined with the afforementioned wolfy post from earlier makes me feel like Bird is pretty likely to flip wolf here.

/vote DatBird.

[Wazza]

Accused	Voters	Count
DatBird	Hjasik, Isaac, Bluestorm, Icibalus	4
BlueStorm	Mathblade	1
Mathblade	Geyde, Bazingaboy	2

[MathBlade]

Gonna crash but moon theory B is Alice Ici and Baz but it’s so moon theory not considering it right now. Good night

[Emilia]

What moon

[Icibalus]

In both cases, his reads have a very simmilar tone that makes me pretty sure he’ll end up flipping wolf. My only reservation is that this way of posting reads may be inherent to DatBird rather than being a wolftell. I’ll probably go and have a look at some village games of DatBird and see if i can find any differences later today.

Next up: Math’s interactions with Bird (Geyde drew my attention to it, so I’ll take this opportunity to get a better read on Math in general).

[Icibalus]

Moon Theory presumably refers to “you’d have to be an alien to believe this”

[Alice]

@Wazza

Accused	Voters	Count
DatBird	Hjasik, Isaac, Bluestorm, Icibalus	4
BlueStorm	Mathblade	1
Mathblade	Geyde, Bazingaboy	2

I voted for Blue, though.

[Wazza]

hnghghgh

[Wazza]

Accused	Voters	Count
DatBird	Hjasik, Isaac, Bluestorm, Icibalus	4
BlueStorm	Mathblade, Alice	2
Mathblade	Geyde, Bazingaboy	2

[DatBird]

So one /vote Blue

[DatBird]

@Icibalus

I’ll probably go and have a look at some village games of DatBird and see if i can find any differences later today.

Howd this go? Or has it still not happened yet? Would love for you to check.

[Icibalus]

I forgot that I promised to do that. I’ll get on it at some point.