Umineko FM: Turn of the Golden Witch - Game Over - Wolves Win

[min]

Light you’re dying 100% of the time today

If you’re a 3p, claim it

[min]

Your rolecard color is what makes me think this btw

[Spak]

He’s a wolf. Eli would’ve gotten “Other” if he were 3p.

[WindwardAway]

@Aelin

I’m… really not sure what’s up with Ghana. I am aware of Seth’s copclaim on him, as well, so obviously never flip him before Seth I guess. If not for the copclaim, however, I’d think that he’s scum 100%. Night is not clear either, but my guess is that Night and Ghana are not W/W in many worlds whatsoever.

Let me ask your opinion, since you’re here and you obviously have your own thoughts on this - do you believe the greencheck on GGhana is real? I think we established that Seth is exactly Diana the cat flavor-wise, but do you think the greencheck could be a fake, and if so do you think it’s TMI or protecting a scum partner?

[min]

OH

okay okay

I’m stupid because I read your message and didn’t even acknowledge that

[Aelin]

I’m… well-aware I’m going over. Really the only thing I can think of is my purple name, which I presumed was just flavor™. But, no, I’m town.

[Aelin]

Do we actually have anything stating that Seth is Diana? Because even before-game Seth talked about using emojis or something this game.
I think there are several possibilities

1. The check is real and I’m just tunneled
2. Seth is scum and Ghana is scum
3. Seth is town and Ghana is scum that is invest immune

I don’t believe Seth goes for something like a check on Ghana to bury me here if it’s W/T

[Nightingale]

I think that you’re wolfreading GGhana off of GGhana things, and not wolfy things

[WindwardAway]

I don’t think we have any confirmation of Seth being Diana, other than his saying he loves Willard. I’m not sure how likely he would’ve come up with that on his own but I guess he could’ve?

[Spak]

@Marluxion

are you an alignment cop miller too

Better watch out for the alignment cop miller tracker godfather bulletproof jester prince

@Nightingale

• compulsory
• don’t control who I visit
• don’t know who I visit

Chatroulette in a nutshell

@WindwardAway

that implies there’s like
an arsonist and a plague doctor or something
holy shit

If you really think about it, doesn’t an arsonist just infect people with fire?

To be real, the idea of an arsonist is likely if GGhana’s got a “firefighter”, and Infection could be a plague doc or a unique mechanic. Inclined to believe the claim because that’s the only way someone would try to take an arsonist joke claim that far. And infection is a possible plague doc indicator; plague doc in role madness would be super scary…

@GGhana

My ability is one shot so YBW’s ability might not be bullshit

But I doubt it

Will keep this in mind for later; I’d be more inclined to believe YBW’s ability if there’s another role fully working against plague doc.

@WindwardAway

I’m just gonna say I think there’s a chance YBW could be town firefighter
for uh
reasons

@min

Yes

I’m town plaguebearer

I…

Don’t know why a legit plague doc would claim this? I’m inclined to believe it because we’d just kill you once we got the infection notification; vanilla plague doc is pure indy, so you couldn’t be taking the heat off of someone else.

This would be a lot easier if my N1 action went through lol

@WindwardAway

between the lurking arsonist and a survivor fruit vendor I’d rather the arsonist dies

But they don’t vend fruit, they vend covid

[Spak]

@Aelin

Do we actually have anything stating that Seth is Diana?

There is the solid possibility that Seth’s just cosplaying as a cat nowadays

[min]

@Spak

Don’t know why a legit plague doc would claim this?

Because if I hid it people would…quite literally think I’m a neutral killer? Plaguebearer isn’t a role people usually see as town

[min]

It’s exactly why I softed and claimed it in the first place, because it’s an obscure role

[Spak]

@min

Because if I hid it people would…quite literally think I’m a neutral killer? Plaguebearer isn’t a role people usually see as town

I was arguing that was a reason for you to be town; I legit don’t know why a neutral killer would do this, especially when a slot like yours hasn’t garnered a lot of pressure all game, so it’s improbable that you could claim plaguebearer/doctor here.

Only caveat is that it seems like every flippin role is in this game, so it may be the only fakeclaim you can back up with substantial actions and no risk of a CC.

[min]

Ohh

I thought you were doubting me, I’m really stupid sorry

[Spak]

All good, I can see how you coulda read it differently lol

[WindwardAway]

@Spak

@WindwardAway

I’m just gonna say I think there’s a chance YBW could be town firefighter
for uh
reasons

Now that I outed my role I’m gonna tell you that I said this because if GGhana has a one-shot RB and I am full RBer, if GGhana has a one-shot firefighter it seem ok that there would be a full firefighter as well. It’s not really about whether I believe YBW’s claim at face value so much as that I won’t dismiss the possibility a firefighter role exists.

Also, I agree with you that I’m inclined to believe min’s claim as plaguebearer just because I don’t see what purpose it would serve for them to claim it if they were anti-town or just any non-town. Min was super awkward as a 3p in SFoL 65, and I haven’t really seen the same behavior or attitude here. They’ve been much more comfortable in the thread which I’d consider is AI that they’re actually town.

[astand]

Vote Count

Accused	Voters	Number
Light	WindwardAway, GGhana, ChopChop	3/6
ChopChop	PokemonKidRyan	1/6
Not voting	EliThePsycho, Light, Marluxion, min, Nightingale, Spak, YoubutWorse	7

[Spak]

@WindwardAway

Now that I outed my role I’m gonna tell you that I said this because if GGhana has a one-shot RB and I am full RBer, if GGhana has a one-shot firefighter it seem ok that there would be a full firefighter as well. It’s not really about whether I believe YBW’s claim at face value so much as that I won’t dismiss the possibility a firefighter role exists.

Gotcha, that makes sense.

@WindwardAway

Also, I agree with you that I’m inclined to believe min’s claim as plaguebearer just because I don’t see what purpose it would serve for them to claim it if they were anti-town or just any non-town. Min was super awkward as a 3p in SFoL 65, and I haven’t really seen the same behavior or attitude here. They’ve been much more comfortable in the thread which I’d consider is AI that they’re actually town.

Yeah. The only thing that’s still bugging me is why town!JOAT would have an ability counter to a town!Plaguebearer. It feels like those two roles are counter to each other (especially given the context that it’s paired w/ a firefighter, balancing an indy role).

[Nightingale]

What if YBW is a wolf firefighter