Updated Baron (Neutral Offensive)

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#1

With the big changes to Royal Blood and previous changes to Noble, I made this updated version of @ThePlex’s Baron.

The Baron
Neutral Social

Royal Blood (Passive) - Votes to elect you King will count as double.

Political Pressure (Day) - Force a player to accuse another player and prevent them from voting further. (2 uses)
Pull Rank (Day) - Your vote for execution and pardon will count twice. (2 uses)

Gossip (Night) - See the feedback of all abilities used on target player. (3 uses)
Espionage (Night) - See the contents of all whispers tomorrow. (2 uses)

Your objective is to become the King, or survive to see the Blue Dragon’s demise.

Becomes the Evil King.

Let me know what really needs changing.

#2

Why is gossip only 3 uses?

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#3

Also how is he offensive? He is clearly social?

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#4

He is literally just an evil Noble. Basically the aristocrat

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#5

Neutral Noble ResidentSleeper

That’s looks not very fun to play.

#6

Your objective is to become the King, or survive to see the Blue Dragon’s demise.

The wording on this is confusing. If his objective is to become King does that mean he wins as soon as he steps up so he can “throw” for the unseen even though he is evil king since he already won?

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#7

I guess but that would need to be reportable

#8

The Noble and RB changes kinda stripped away everything that made it unique so this doesn’t surprise me at all

#9

Oh yeah, should probably change that I guess

Rip in space for offensive abilities

#10

I think he should turn into an “unique” version of the king. Because there is also the fact that his second win con allows him to win with NK but him turning into Evil King doesn’t.

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#11

The point of this thread is to see if this is salvageable after the last patch tbh @NuclearBurrito

So

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#12

He is. But he needs changes.

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#13

There is nothing creative about this … I would like to see new abilities, something other than a neutral clone of Noble.

#14

Make him turn into a King that can win with both NK and Cult/Unseen not just an Evil King. And maybe take away the “turn into king” wincon. He would probably want to be king anyways to help scum.

#15

Basically most abilities but you probably know that.

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#16

Correct duh

Obviously the old slant no longer works lmao

But role design isn’t my thing so I’m here to seek others’ ideas lol

#17

Welcome to the club buddy

Unfortunately all of the unique stuff was stolen via patches

Which, don’t get me wrong, are great and amazing and way more important than an old class suggestion

But

I kinda want a NE who has to be the King

So I’m opening fixing this up to all y’all

#18

How about this variation?

The Baron :shield:
Neutral Offensive

Royal Blood (Passive) - Votes to elect you King will count as double.
Secret Negotiantons (Passive) - You’re immune to any attacks beside from Blue Dragon’s.

Political Treachery (Day) - Force a player to accuse another player and prevent them from voting further also your vote will count twice. (2 uses)
Handsome Bribe (Day) - Block all Kings nights abilities tonight. King won’t know it fails. (2 uses)

Forced Disinheritance (Night) - Choose player. If they have a Royal Blood, you will disable this passive, they won’t know. If they don’t have you will occupy them instead. (3 uses)
Espionage (Night) - See the contents of all whispers tomorrow. (3 uses)

Become a Tyrant King.

Becomes the Tyrant King.

The Tyrant King
Neutral Special

Tenacity (Passive) - Immune to death once. Immune to being occupied and redirected.

Royal Finger (Day) - Your next vote for treason will count twice. (Infinite uses)
Decide Fate (Day) You may choose the whether the player on trial will be executed or pardoned. - (1 use)

Dark Whispers (Night) - Choose player. If player is a Blue Dragon he will appear as suspicious to investigators. If not then they will appear as Blue Dragon tonight. (2 uses)
Powerful Allies (Night) - Determine player’s faction. If they’re Blue Dragon you will occupy them. (2 uses)

Survive to see Blue Dragon’s demise.

As this class you can still claim and same time sabotage King’s Actions / Important BD to help evils out.

Having colliding wincons is confusing and making NK live little harder for no reason.

In that way, BD May not believe instantly Noble claim to suspect it might be a Baron. Disabling RB would also be important in some cases.

But as leverage for BD I would make him Unique, to not have better chance to screw up BD by RNG,

Any feetback is welcome.

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#19

Why are they different colors lol

#20

Because why not. :eyes:

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