[VFM] A Hat in Time Cop13er - Town Wins!

But also like, Vulgard went after Zone first thing, voted him, and was like there’s prob a wolf in Zone/LiLi/Cream

he even said it was “gut feelinh”

argh typo
*feeling

this later changed to Zone/LiLi

like would w!Vulgard really try to bus a teammate like that

are we all just waiting for cheese’s grand towncase opening reveal? :joy:

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Basically my reasoning

If you look at the full post above, you can very clearly see why vul is conflicted about centuries, and the line of logic is p towny

Continuing the centuries line:

“I don’t think they’re that scummy but i dont like their person” is again more towny than not, you could easily just chalk that up as a scumlean and start developing agenda from there but vul… doesnt

Tinfoily early d1, something id also credit to a town!vulgard

The lack of agenda is p clear when vulgard does something like this:

These are four consecutive posts from them
There’s 0 evidence of them even trying to focus, and instead just appears jumpy

Moving onto d2

This is their ~first post d2, something that Ruri mischaracterizes as “going for lowposters”

And

Thats not whats going on here

If lowpostings the reason vul will say that directly and will get voted by me immedistely after if im in the game but when vul said this ruri had already been in the discussion for some time

Kind of a rundown on why i scumread ruri atm

Again, little agenda and instead giving insightful reads

More “dafuq” reactions rather than “this scum” reactions

Finally we come to this:

Compare that to

Ruri is accusing vulgard of the second (attacking a lowposter and being lazy), but the accusation is quite different in nature as you can see

Only thing i think vul has goong against them is this:

I still need to read the full eod2 so ill hold off commenting on this one

Gotta go catch a bus so will be less active foe next 30 mins

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/vote ruri

alice i think your cloned read is like really really bad

Does this mean u agree with me or is this the usual “cloned being weird so town”

no it means i think your analysis is deeper than it would be as a wolf
also you wouldn’t defend wolfmate emilia like this, it’s common sense to bus her into the dirt
so you’re probably just town

i think all of this is reasonably fakeable and emilia’s posts today are not good

i also like

really hated vul’s push on zone

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Votecount

Voted Voters Count
Emilia Alice, Marluxion, Ruri 3/6
Ruri clonedcheese 1/6
Not voting Centuries, Lil, Psyx, Emilia, Mistyx 5

Ping Arctic and Eli if there are any errors.

Day ends in ~6 1/2 hours.

you’re reasonably fakable

Could you explain the “not good” posts

Emilia’s done nothing all day, when they subbed in, they acted clueless- like “I don’t know anything”, when she did know some things, and it felt like she was trying to underplay how much she knew when I questioned her. IDK why town would pretend to know nothing like that

basically tl;dr the “know nothing” felt like a cover/excuse to not do anything

like why did I have to be the one to ask her for her already existing read on Alice and prod her to look at EOD2 or at least recall what she remembered of it since she did say she read some of it

she just looked like she didn’t want to be involved at all tbh

also what I’m getting from this is:

  1. you SR Ruri and think they aren’t W/W so Vulgard’s town

  2. Vulgard shows no agenda so town

for point 1…
I’d still rather flip Vulgard first and reconsider Ruri if Vulgard’s town

for point 2, I kinda don’t agree
mainly bc in the past, I’ve gotten TRed for not “showing agenda” as wolf and I think depending on the player, not all wolves play with agendas so like

unless Vulgard’s meta says they are agenda-y as wolf I don’t think it’s a very valid point

*this specifically refers to agenda to push for miselims

Im not the go to person for meta

But for the one game that’s been stuck in my mind

The one i quoted, in which i was alting as calculus

They did the “push for bs then dont take responsibility” maneuver a couple times

I recall them doing the same thing in a later scumgame so that’s just been my perception of wolfgard

The “agenda” i talk about refers to this