[VFM] A Hat in Time Cop13er - Town Wins!

i wasn’t even trying to push lili
like i said literally posts later it’s just something that irritates me

I really like the fact LiLi didn’t use Zone leaving the game as a justification to not do anything; instead, she simply moved on to evaluating other slots and it felt very natural. She merely acknowledged Zone leaving and her sadness over it, but didn’t make it an excuse to not do anything. She didn’t keep talking about Zone’s slot like a hyperfixated wolf who doesn’t consider themselves capable of fabricating reads on slots they don’t have meta on.

I actually agree with this as well, I think that was somewhat towny from him.

@Vulgard hurry up and get to the bits where silviu stops talking all of us know i’m town lili is town cream is town and psyx is town

i want to know your thoughts in particular about the PoE

as a wolf it’s super fucking easy just to write paragraphs about how amazingly towny someone is but if you’re town i’m gonna find that from you sorting the PoE not reading paragraphs of why lili is a titanium villager

starts talking*

I’m not sure how to feel about Wazza’s push on Chloe. On the one hand, I don’t get the impression it’s pure agenda. On the other hand, it’s a push on someone I townread from a slot that’s in PoE, and it could be refuge in audacity to break out of the PoE.
I’m not very confident in reading Wazza after what happened in Ciconia, where I incorrectly tunneled her the entire time I was alive, and also in DVC. When I view the Chloe push in a vacuum, I think it’s actually quite villagery from her, because it reads more like believing in the read and less like trying to gain something from the push. When I don’t view it in a vacuum, I see a brazen push that might be refuge in audacity, as noted before.

Thing is, that’s how he plays as a villager, too. He’s just… there. I’ve seen him 500-post and somehow say nothing the entire time.

Him posting at all might be a good sign by itself.

/vote Ruri

This is a fair point, actually. I have a similar thought around that time in the thread. Feels like I’m getting influenced by the recency bias I’ve complained about before, but I don’t get that recency bias regarding any other slot in the game.

I’m reading the thread and my PoE isn’t really changing. I don’t really care who we vote between Ruri/Silviu/pigeon/Wazza. Preferably not LiLi, I think she’s become significantly townier over time.

The problem with Silviu is that he says a lot of words that don’t mean anything all the time as villa, and I’ve never seen his wolfgame. What I’ve heard of his wolfgame is that he kinda just doesn’t do anything and replaces out, but that was literally one game. I’m pretty sure he could do the same thing he’s doing here as a wolf. Sheer postcount could indicate V, maybe, but I’m unwilling to put too much stock in that.

I probably shouldn’t townread this, but I do.

Ruri’s slot feels like a wolf via gamestate reasons.

This game feels like Thunal’s Champs qualifier where I don’t really wolfread anyone who’s been actively posting, so I naturally gravitate away from that. I try to find wolves among the active posters, but most of what I see is stuff I can only townread.

Biggest concerns are about Marl and Centuries, the former being paranoia and the latter some version of recency bias, but eh. I’ve also read Wazza’s case on Chloe and Appel’s support of it, but I’m not really seeing it aorn.

The way I see it, Chloe’s playing more or less like I am, and our thoughts on pigeon generally mimic each other. I’m not going to wolfread her for having the same approach that I have. I don’t think it’s wolfy for her to do this.

wdym recency bias?

Also what are your thoughts on pigeon though?

Being pushed for things that are not alignment, indicative, as well as the one part of my ISO i probably ~never do as a wolf is peak fuckin’ FoL lol

I’ll be back in a bit then i have like 450 posts to read but it’s pretty frustrating to refute a case against me when the person pushing said case is insistent on NAI things being AI

I read my notifications and I think Wazza’s push is very villagery and I believe that she believes in it but
It’s an incredibly wowee moment

Someone link Wazza the Newcomb article in the meantime so she can learn what “playing by PoE” means

Danke

Be back later

talking about that
I need to post about the rest of your ISO

and to add onto this
do you really think playing by PoE directly works when most people are stating 1 or 2 people in their PoE for the day and others stating 9 or 10? Process of Elimination works, that’s how it is. But when you’re given the situation, when you have no scumreads yourself, what are you planning on doing? Pushing on one of your more lower-end reads and hoping for the best?

In my opinion, Pigeon acted in Ciconia how he usually acts as Town, so if we’re going by this meta formation, then based on this, he has no meta read for the game, which aids nothing, neither a point in his favour or a point against. I’ve not read Pigeon much and I probably should, all I’ve noted is that to me he seems like he’s acting how he acted in Ciconia but to others, he isn’t.

good read

Chloe feels like a mother talking to a child lmfao. But I agree with this ^^^, you signed up for a game, you play it. I didn’t sign up for this game and look at me, I’m playing it :joy_cat:

This can go two ways, a scum annoyed at their fellow scum or me and PKR in Ciconia
nothing about the post
just the sassiness at the end talking about how you want someone to do something they should be doing, it’s funny to me.

In my opinion, I disagree with this, Marl is a good player and has shown time and time again that no matter what he’s good as both alignments. Although I’d love to hear more of an explanation on the metaread itself, can you compare it to a game of his? And not just say “villagame”

Validread, I don’t really know what to comment much on Chloe’s alignment and why I suspect her if you cannot tell. There’s not really much to gather apart from “Wow, Chloe’s doing things”, I guess?

By the way, can someone explain wtf Alice and Chloe are on about with this whole “Marl N0” thing.

Okay, coming from a Town you perspective, if you were to read this game from a meta perspective, is there anyone in this game who you believe you can confidently read either metawise or just in general.

Also, to add onto this, if you had 3 dayvigs right now, who would you shoot.


I can’t be bothered commenting on anything else, there’s nothing I can really gather a read from at all, I read it but I can’t find anything where I don’t just quote it and just go “mm-hmm, yeah, okay” or even just add a “but what if it wasn’t” onto it so I guess you get my word gibberish and questions.