Also, my vote is on the third highest poster rn.
okay but about 90% of the 3rd top posters posts couldâve been merged into one.
They have about the same content impact that I do with a high amount of posts.
Doesnât really matter.
If he wonât play the game and instead will just whine about it without actually hunting wolves then he can die.
You avoid the lynch by suggesting alternative targets to shift. Not by doing w/e Silviu is doing.
Iâll read the one Iâm voting
Alice, are you going to death tunnel somebody and youâd be shocked to realize they townie and then didnât think of anymore targets because the mafia killed ya?
Oof, hold on, real life affairs awaits me again, sorry guys. Iâll read that guy I promised to read, see you.
I already have a PoE with you/Pidgeon/Phraze and maybe Wazza/Appel/Cent/Chloe in the outer bondaries.
Cavets being that Pidgeon/Chloe and Wazza/Appel are highly unlikely pairings.
I canât do much irt your/Pidgeon/Phrazeâs slot because I canât force people to play the game that theyâve signed up for.
If Silviu is a wolf heâs with Conroy imo
I think Silviu Conroy Chloe has a decent chance to be the entire wolfteam
Regardless of Silviuâs alignment Iâm still pretty certain there is a wolf in Chloeroy
Votecount
Voted | Voters | Count |
---|---|---|
Centuries | Psyx, Silviu | 2/7 |
Silviu | Centuries, Alice | 2/7 |
Chloe | Wazza, Appelsiini | 2/7 |
Pigeon | Chloe | 1/7 |
Alice | Pigeon | 1/7 |
Vulgard | Marl | 1/7 |
LiL | Vulgard | 1/7 |
Not voting | Ruri, LiL, Cream | 3 |
Ping Arctic and Eli if there are any errors.
(there are probably errors)
Am voting Chloe, not Pigeon
@Centuries You want content? Here you go:
Weird because Iâd very much trust Creamâs read on Lili than someone who only played 1 game with her but ok.
I donât know why town would ever feel the need to be conscious about the âatmosphereâ of a game thread since they just need to do their own investigation; wolves, on the other hand, need to keep the state of the gamethread in mind for their plans.
Okay, fair enough. But my main issue was that I thought he was saying âdonât rolefish, guysâ and then later on doing the exact same thing. Whatâs the difference between immediately claiming your N0, and doing it later, then? Why is the former anti-solving and the latter not?
First two points are very bad:
- Vulgâs tone is contrived/fake, but thatâs not following the code of textbook wolfy actions (idk who wrote this wolf textbook but isnât the main difference between town and wolves is that the former is genuine and the latter is fake??), hence itâs not alignment-indicative
- Vulg is not wolf because if he is, he wouldnât post like that because heâs not feeling relaxed in an empty thread (why on earth would feeling relaxed or not in an empty thread be alignment-indicative??? Which posts are these referring to? All I remember is Vulg just posting a sleeping emoji?)
- Vulg is not wolf because he doesnât reveal his hand like that so early (this is okay, but WIFOM)
It feels like heâs just making explanations out of thin air to defend Vulg against Chloe.
So this is the part where he makes his test for Pidgeon, and itâs weird how he started it with âIâm seeing this thing, and anyone else who sees it is likely a wolfâ and says âthat thing is super easy to solve but if you talk about it itâs gonna derail the thread and it might not even mean anything in the first placeâ which is a pretty weird thing to say if he was planning on making a case for it. If he townleaned Vulg for not revealing his hand easily, then wouldnât it also be possible that Vulg either (a) didnât caught unto what he was doing or (b) wouldnât distance from/defend a wolfbuddy so blatantly? But Centuries immediately discards his townlean and votes for Vulg instead.
Iâm going by the ârand = as good as not having postedâ and not the ârand = 75% villaâ school of thought
Disregarding posts (âas good as not having postedâ) seems to be the first step into cherry-picking the posts you want to focus on (what wolves tend to do) instead of looking at the big picture (what town should do).
pigeon is meh
but like not a meh where i think heâs a wolf for reasons its just that he could do better no matter the alignment
So whatâs your actual stance on him, then? All Iâm seeing from you is âx might be this buuuuut x might also be thatâ, and when other people have the same opinions as you you all go âoh nono youâre wrong, theyâre actually thisâ (but still with some caveats like bruh make up your mind).
that doesnât make people wolf
In my book it does. When someone does something I donât understand, I feel like they have some hidden agenda, and wolves are more likely to have hidden agenda than town.
marl that read comes from nowhere and im pretty not W/W with pigeon
Why canât you be w/w with Pigeon? Looking back your plan for him seemed pretty much geared towards setting up traps for people who âruin itâ or comment on your posts, what with the way you jumped on Vulg. And when Alice started pushing for a Pigeon lynch you defended him, but not so much to actually rock the boat. If Pigeon actually flips scum youâll definitely be milking the fact that you made such a plan (but too bad someone just had to ruin it boohoo) for what itâs worth, would you? You being so wishy-washy makes me think youâre just placing yourself into the most advantageous position and start pushing or defending people as you see fit, and who does that? Wolves.
lili maybe probably v without having read a v game of hers
Didnât you say you had a â100% read accuracy on Liliâ? Whatâs with the âmaybe probablyâ? lol
VVV Appel
VV Chloe Vulgard Lili
NV Alice Pigeon Marl Cream
N Wazza Psyx
W Silviu
Werenât you townreading Cream earlier? What happened for you to bump her down to NV?
Buzzword, itâs not AI. Iâm not being hedgey in a way where my townreads/scumreads can be flipped easily in order to push agenda, Iâm being hedgey in a solvy way.
Youâre being hedgey in a way where no matter what your townreads/scumreads flip, youâll be able to explain yourself by saying âoh I didnât really think they were town/scum because look, I said this earlierâ and if that isnât AI I dunno what is. How is being hedgey solvy in any way?
C) I literally never call him a wolf in that post
The amount of times you said wolf says otherwise.
Are you trying to pad your bad read with more words that donât lead anywhere or what
Didnât you say you were finding town members from thought process? Because thatâs what Iâm doing, Iâm explaining mine. Too bad theyâre thoughts revealing how scummy are, so why not just OMGUS vote me and call it a day, eh?
Those really tell me you donât care about solving current gamestate, you read the players but not the thread?
Marl/Vulgard/Appel are all highposting but you simply slap a ânullâ on them despite reading 2 of them + livethreading when theyâre in thread?
Really struggle to see if youâre attempting to solve here
It obviously means I didnât have the opportunity to look at them yet, because I donât have a gigabrain that can keep track of every single player. Itâs not like you have reads on everyone either bruh.
Thatâs such an easy read to make that delays the game so much where you donât really try to look at which is scummier and just go âgotta be a wolf there shrugâ which is very eh, also the whole thing is meta/up to your own reads like
Oh wow my single preliminary reads are delaying the game *clapclap*. Itâs not like theyâre complete cases yet, theyâre literally just thoughts. But you donât need to worry about that because Iâm going to be looking at them after this.
You donât like =/= wolf
Thatâs actually what I mean. âI donât likeâ is just another term that I use alongside âthis is wolfy behaviorâ, âI donât see thing coming from townâ, etc.
wtf is this solve makes no sense
Why doesnât it make any sense, then? Explain why Iâm wrong?
Chloe is a pretty good wolf? Are you not worried about that? Whydo you have a whole paragraph on Cream/Me/Alice but thne you just one line âChloe is town because she did something I did as townâ
thatâs worrying?
Her investigation reads off as wanting everyone to share their thoughts so she can make her judgement on it without any bias, and I donât feel any hidden agenda coming from her. Unless youâre telling me that Iâm wrong?
wordsalad.txt
At least Iâve got better punctuation than you :V
TL;DR Centuries is strong-arming people to do what he wants, he flipflops on his reads on people without explanation and when he does deign give us his thoughts they are chock full of âI gueeeeess?? But also maybeeeeâ, and a good number of his posts are just spamfests that donât actually contribute to the thread (and he has the gall to call my reads useless like ahahahhaha nice joke, you should be a comedian) This slot reeks of ulterior motives and thatâs scummy with a capital S.
Anyway I see that Iâm 700 posts behind again. Brb just gonna cry in the toilet
600 posts.
Iâm starting to think LiLi might be a villager, by the way. The defensiveness I called her out for in the early-game doesnât seem to be there anymore, and I like the fact sheâs extensively evaluating everyone. I checked the wolfchat of her Champs qualifier and her posts in that qualifier, noticing that she seemed significantly more worried about how the game was going.
what was even the point of your post
except shadefor no good reason
Informing everyone that it happened, because Iâm pretty sure Iâm the only person who saw it. Itâs not shade, itâs wolfy for Silviu - because from what Iâve heard, he doesnât play the game and/or replaces out as mafia.
I think the villageriest post from LiLi Iâve read until now was that post where she mentioned starting to reconsider her wolfread on Zone. She started reconsidering it because of the sheer number of people that said LiLi/Zone contained a wolf. I believe thatâs towny, simply because the POV here would have to be something like âwolves are encouraging yeets between the two of us, maybe Iâm wrongâ and I think thatâs somewhat difficult to fabricate when you have TMI youâre a wolf. It makes more sense if LiLi/Zone are W/W slots, but⌠hm.
I feel like I share part of the blame for this because I didnât give the most wow wow summary out there and Psyx mightâve had to skip some stuff
but like.
Psyx.
really??what was the point of including 5 no-impression nulls in your readlist and then adding a couple commentary here and there for them
didnât everyone really despise it back when the newbies did it and half their readlist was just null
why are you doing it too
I really like this comment.
what is your read on chloe
Townreading enough to put her on my list of villagers.
also lili iâm pretty sure youâve said âNAIâ like at least 50 times this game
nevermind itâs literally the first nvm
This feels wolfy. Assuming something he could push LiLi over and then retracting it when he realizes itâs factually incorrect.
people calling something NAI instead of saying they think something is town indicative or mafia indicative grinds my gears
Unless this comment is supposed to indicate itâs more of a policy thing.