Yes, he very well could be a townie who’s not seeing things correctly. There are two mafias. Kind of a 2 v 1. I am in the two and I know I’m town. With my position, I don’t see it being likely. I could be wrong though.
Time to play “townslip or fake townslip”
I think it’s fake townslip.
…you’re the one who posted it…
That’s the whole point
You should know not to take comments like that seriously.
time to play scumslip or not scumslip
Oh that. I’m not englishing well atm. What I meant to say is htm said if merc flipped town, he’d target me and squid. I said I am one of the two referring to the two of us. Make sense?
Why are you avoiding Ashe and instead voting Htm
Happy new year!
Happy new year!
55 more minutes left
hrrmmm, a central timer…
wait, ari, aren’t you pst?
central timers are the superior beings you dingus
East Coasters out
(this is a joke)
2 AM here
Here’s a squid Iso, as best I can manage. I only quoted stuff that I think is important/relevant.
Early townread of marshal, looks as best I can tell as a gut read at best. Not really useful now, but might be later.
Early support for a derps wagon, never moved iirc.
I don’t know what openwolfing is, but this seems like a very natural response for a player who is not “openwolfing”. Doesn’t prove town tho. and yes I did censor that. fight me.
I have trouble believing that squid would not know that this is cop cover. Is she saying it’s bad cop cover, or trying to further rationalize her vote? idk.
I remember arete brought up a possibility of a perspective slip here. I don’t think the first post indicates that squid thinks you’re using the method, more just saying you’re wrong. (you’re = arete)
AtE Time!! I honestly tend to read AtE under pressure as scum, but I understand it’s part of her meta, so I’ll call it NAI.
I’m not really sure what to do with this. I feel like if I knew where/how to look, I could find something strongly AI, but idk how to read this.
This doesn’t feel natural to me. I think it’s that squid takes a pretty safe method of keeping people from ruling out marshal.
I don’t like this. I guess it could be natural enough, but also could be squid trying to help turn arete on marshal.
AtE is Swedish. Impressive. And annoying.
There’s like 30 swedish posts, and half are about the swedish, so I’m just gonna not comment on them.
I read them and their translations, and I felt a lot of AtE, a lot of rationalizing actions, and not much other substance.
I’m guessing people are hating me for what I did, especially Jake… I don’t deserve to live after what I did. Like I said before, my lynch would probably show motivations of others, so… I think it’s for the best
I’m not going to vote myself, but I feel like no matter what I do, I’m going to be turned into calamari because of all this mess
I was a selfish jerk who just wanted to do something different and make myself feel better
This definitely seems remorseful. I don’t think this is AI, but I think it does mean that the swedish was not a tactic employed for scum benefit.
Anyway, I honestly don’t care what anyone else thinks, I’m sticking with my read on Jake, especially with the bullshit hypocrisy with me and Marshal earlier… That’s the only Scumread I’m confident in
This kinda seems towny
Well, people kept scumrreading me more because of the Swedish talk. Like I said before, there’s nobody speaking up for me or trying to see from my point of view, so I know this is scumdriven
Now this is interesting. Maybe I’m reading too much into this, but when he says nobody is helping her, I think this precludes him asking help from an active scumteam. This is clearly an AtE post, which is her speciality, so she might be able to pull something off. But if this AtE is not completely faked, then either she’s town, or she’s the only active member of the scumteam for this conversation. (which really doesn’t rule out many of the currently proposed scumteams with her, tbf)
I wish I can say for certain. I’m more certain Jake’s part of it, but also Ash. I don’t know how knowledgable they were about the situation, but they just jumped in and voted me on the spot. There’s no progression even though there was a short explanation to go with the vote. To me, it seems like a possible opportunistic wolf wanting to set things in stone
Um, yeah. I mean, it was either do something or do nothing. Nothing means just waiting longer to do something, and something means jumping on something obvious until I can get a grip on the game.
So my actions def do look like that.
But, the fact that it’s true aside, who is it useful for? Imo, this is just as equally “town trying to find scummy people” as “scum trying to find scummy people who are not themselves”
Add onto the fact that he voted me out of nowhere, but this time without a single word
Seems very interested in a derps lynch. Again, not making arguments directly against him, but rather supporting people who agree.
Squid personally seemed to be pushed extremely heavily, I haven’t reread it yet but I feel like it wasn’t many people starting that wagon
/vote PoisonedSquid
Okay, yep, scumdriven wagon 100%
I’m changing my vote, but I know nothing will happen because everyone’s in the sheep mindset even after I tried to explain who I think is the one controlling the wagon from behind the scenes
/vote SirDerpsAlot
I struggle a little bit to parse this. This could easily be self-preservation (wasn’t super close iirc), or it could be based on his previous reads (wierd timing, imo)
The best explanantion I can come up with is that she planned to vote derps a while before, got more unwanted pressure, and followed through on the plan.
This is post 1179, I want to come back and try to get a vote count.
Silence scum
I’m not scum, so I’ll continue speaking even though I know it’s a hopeless cause, so yeah, that’s what I mean about being ignored because of scum influence
Silence
Scum
I’m not scum, you [DOLPHIN NOISE]!
You’re trying to shut down discussion and that’s pretty fucking low if you ask me
Squid seems to be getting rather rattled by someone who, at least from my perspective, had little credibility. Granted, derps is being rather antagonistic, but it doesn’t really seem like a natural response for town.
Oh really? I’m the one coming up with agenda?! You’re the one that’s going “Oh she’s 100% scum” “There’s no way she’s flipping town” when it’s pretty fucking clear that you’ll be in deep water once it’s revealed I’m Vanilla Town!
Um, might be super nitpicky, but why is vanilla town capitalized here? This feels like a slip of some sort, but I don’t know how to read it.
Well you just told the actual scum that you’re not the cop. Nice.
I’m going to die anyway! There’s no point in lying about it anymore
I don’t think that squid intentionally dropped cop cover, the way this indicates. Probably an accident, speaking to squid’s emotional state when writing the post.
And why do you think I’m scum? “Because you’re spewing agenda”
How am I spewing agenda? “I don’t know what agenda is”
Then how do you know I’m spewing agenda? “Because you’re scum”It’s an endless cycle of agenda pushing and it makes me cringe and you accuse me of pushing agenda even though you don’t know what that is.
It’s like calling a tomato a vegetable because it doesn’t taste sweet, but a tomato is actually a fruit and it can taste sweet, so you don’t know what a tomato truly is
Okay, that example was really weird, but I think the rest proves my point
This seems like a pretty towny response to a bad accusation
I’d be honestly surprised if you’re Town eyeroll
Hold on, what’s with the sudden vote on Kyle? Can you least explain that if you can’t explain your read on me?
This honestly seems kinda townie, the patient impatience, roll-eyes sort of sarcasm. I’m not sure if I’ve seen it in scum before, but idk.
Actually, you do have a point. If one flips Town, it makes the other look bad because people started associating one thing and the other. If both flips town, then it’s revealed as a chain mislynch. I’d need to look deeper into Kyle, but your wagon quickly formed just like mine did which looks bad economics wise
This seems fake tho, I kinda doubt that kyle would be inclined to think so far ahead as a chain myslynch. Almost looks like a chain myslynch that you’re setting up…
/vote PoisonedSquid
I read like 20 posts at random and think Marshal is scum
I think town Marshal would be more driven to defend SDAL but he is being very passive although always repeating they are cop
So he is obviously not cop and imo likely not even town
Then why are you voting me?!
You are the placeholder
But y
/Vote Marshal
Marshal is the placeholder rn
I’m having trouble rationalizing this as SvS. Individually, both people’s actions are pretty scummy. But it doesn’t seem like scum!merc would do on Scum!squid.
Although if they were very uncoordinated, and not using the scumchat, it might be possible.
Merc can be pretty scummy as town too tbh with her belt on getting mislynched
Although this is wierd. Squid seemed very quick to forgive that vote. I think that I, or anyone in a non-scumbuddy situation would be very interested in pushing such an unexplained and quickly withdrawn vote. Note that there are no posts between this and the last.
Hot take: Arete is scum
Hiss! That’s my N0 greencheck!
I don’t remember seeing squid’s greencheck before. I kind of have to piece it together, but I’m pretty sure that this is it. Arete seems like a lazy guess/choice. More as a way of seeming town than cop.
//did you know that by typing three tildes '~' in a row, you can type code?
hello="mercenary"
world="is scum"
for i in range(10):
print(hello, world)
//anyways, on to day 2.
Okay, there’s just one thing I want to try to figure out. How did scum knew Dat was the cop in the first place?
Not sure what to do with this, seems like an easily fakeable D2 entrance. On second thought, that actually seems a bit TMI. What made squid assume that the NK was solely on cop equity?
Okay, I can get down with looking at them a bit. They were the last person to vote for Derps at EoD and I bet there’s at least one scum somewhere in the wagon
First of all, while this is technically true, wagonomically it’s false. I originally voted derps in post #1164, which puts me third of all the people on the derps wagon. I then tried to CFD off derps onto merc due to DADV, but arete said that was no good (later explained; cop equity), and I switched back.
So I was hardly the last person on the derps wagon, as you indicate.
From where I’m standing, this looks very much like a chain lynch.
Like I said before, I feel like Ash is most likely scum here before and I was sure of them as scum before EoD. The wagon stayed small with only three people, so that means it has some sort of resistance to it
Um, you never said anything about this before. Perhaps you said something about it to your scumbuddies?
Also contrast with previous post. This seems outright false.
Also, the second sentence’s logic seems bad
And Merc, I think you have done “stupid stuff” as scum before, but I’m not 100% sure. A look into previous scumgames would help
Still seems very willing to overlook what merc’s done scummy.
/vote ash4fun
Merc’s wagon is getting a lot of speed and it’s making me very concerned wagonomics wise. I’m pretty darn sure this is scum right here
This seems very fakeable. Also, shows pretty clearly that he thinks merc is more town than I am scum. Which is weird, since most people agree that both of us are pretty scummy.
I’m going to make a recipe stating why Ash is the best wagon to go to and since I’m in a good mood, I’m going to turn the ISO into a dish of some sort, but it’s gonna take a while… And yes, it will be in English :^)
I don’t like when people say their gonna ISO with a certain outcome. You’ll see over the course of this Iso that I don’t have a single narrative I’m trying to justify.
Well, the Merc wagon formed really quickly despite day started at least an hour ago
Don’t see how that proves it’s a scum-driven wagon.
lmaoscumteam
Okay, now that’s a comment I should be concerned about
This a joke?
No, I didn’t townread you -_-
I just said you have a tendency to get mislynched
Which makes your treatment of him all the more curious. If you aren’t reading him town, what did you read him?
But I think you have a better chance of flipping Town than Ash. I already have my vote on them and I still see some people voting for you, so I feel this is going to be a big battle here
Well, I’m glad we agree that the current wagons are TvS
If we lynch Merc and she flips town, I’m genuinely going to post in all my posts tomorrow.
Like I don’t think she’s town, she doesn’t want to make a readlist and she is acting differently from her town-meta.
Can you explain what posts feel like pushing agenda?
AtE is pretty NAI coming from Squid. I wouldn’t townread/scumread her off of it.
Okay, just from your recent posts, I can feel something’s off
Uh, be nice if you, like, explain maybe?
There was more resistance to it today and although the wagon was fast yesterday, it didn’t stay stable for long
If feel like you’re trying to look like you picked impartially between the wagons. But… that’s not what it looks like.
TL;DR
For the first half of the first day, squid seemed pretty nulltown.
Once mercenary entered the thread though, I feel like every other post is defending or TMIing him or something.
Second day seems still super siding with mercenary, but maybe possibly also consistant with a townie that just thinks they’re right and doesn’t realize they might be wrong.
And what if Merc flips Town? Who do you think is scum there because the Merc wagon popped much quicker than yours and you think it’s on a scum. With all three scum still alive, it’s either another mislynch or it’s a bus meant to frame someone for another mislynch
If merc flips scum… I’d probably be inclined to look carefully for a powerwolf like arete or more likely marshal.
I hardly think that 3 votes right at the start of day, on a pretty scummy slot, must necessarily be town-led.
sorry for slow response, thinking while watching movie is hard