[VFM] Elf Gold Rush - Game Over. Humans Win!

City · July 21, 2021, 9:00am

what was his last wolf game and how are they similar?

WindwardAway · July 21, 2021, 9:01am

this was Silviu’s only wolfgame

WindwardAway · July 21, 2021, 9:01am

i already wrote points on how they’re similar and i gotta work for a while so i’m not going to repost

City · July 21, 2021, 9:03am

ok but thats silvu as both aligments

WindwardAway · July 21, 2021, 9:04am

WindwardAway:

Silviu does that thing regardless of alignment where he talks a lot about how to solve, but the thing is he gave none of his own takes in Duality Mafia before replacing out. He’s also given no takes here except that Leafia was a null which is… not a read. In Duality Mafia he did not give reads until he was “interviewing” Lukundo, who was also a wolf. All he did was ask for Luk’s reads and kind of waited for someone else to solve the game for him. In the current game he complained about backreading which I never remember him doing before and just asked people for their reads without giving his own takes, until I called out Leafia for a wolfy looking post that I assumed she posted as a wolf, and then Silviu stepped in and explained it with a very blatant assumption she was town.

WindwardAway:

So I called Silviu out on his assumption that Leafia made the post as town, and asked why he townread Leafia because I scumread her. He said that he wasn’t townreading Leafia, he just thought she was a null, and didn’t really like that I was assuming he townread her. But he never, ever considered that Leafia could have made that post as a wolf, and I thought it was a very wolfy post and had assumed she made it as a wolf (hence my reaction to it was “wtf”).

Silviu then proceeded to call me out for questioning him and said I never do this in any other games we’re in, which is odd because I’ve definitely pushed him before as he’s kind of always LHF (I pushed him into a misyeet the first time I played with him because I found his general behavior scummy, but at this point I’m aware some things appear in his meta regardless of alignment). It sounded like he was trying to formulate a scumread on me, so I decided to straight-out push him to see what would happen. I’ve seen how he reacts as town to getting pushed and I don’t think his reaction here resembled that. So then he said he was suspicious of my push on him, and somehow was not suspicious of Leafia who immediately grabbed my push and voted Silviu off of my statement that Silviu looked like he had TMI. I actually thought it looked very opportunistic and that Leafia might have actually been certain she was now pushing a wolf because she was also a wolf, hence I said they might be w/w.

The thing is that Leafia sheeps people she townreads, and it’s sometimes hard to tell the difference between when she is sheeping as town and when she is opportunistically jumping on as scum, so I was still suspicious. The only thing that gave me hesitation at that point was Silviu’s treatment of her slot, where he had explained for Leafia what her post was about from a t!Leafia POV, and that he was only sussing me and not her for pushing him, and specifically “because you don’t do this to me” or whatever he said in reference to previous games.

my case on silviu in this game

Arete · July 21, 2021, 9:05am

Vote Count

Vote Target	Voted By	Votes
thepigeonnyc	Clownzu, Zone_Q11, City	3/7
Marluxion	clonedcheese, Nuclear Rehab	2/7
Whysper	WindwardAway, thepigeonnyc, Marluxion, Vulgard	4/7
clonedcheese	min, Whysper	2/7
Not Voting	EliThePsycho, January	2

Ping me with errors

WindwardAway · July 21, 2021, 9:05am

yeah but it isn’t just that, i’m not that shallow in making meta reads
i’m more on his case because of his behavior specifically in this game
i’m just saying he’s done nothing outside of his wolfrange

WindwardAway · July 21, 2021, 9:05am

anyway, be back later

January · July 21, 2021, 9:13am

Two scumreads and one Null of mine are voting pigeon.

January · July 21, 2021, 9:13am

I’m not liking this.

WindwardAway · July 21, 2021, 9:19am

I think there’s exactly 1 wolf in Whysper/cloned btw
why is pigeon a counterwagon to Whysper? I thought they even had w/w equity but wagonomics would suggest otherwise.

Nuclear_Rehab · July 21, 2021, 9:20am

Look I don’t intend to be mean, but we’ve already discussed why I think Marl is mafia.

Just stop being an insufferable douche, and focus on the game outside of constantly commenting on me with inaccurate statements.

Zone_Q11 · July 21, 2021, 9:22am

I know that Whysper is the slot that needs to be resolved the most, but I just want Pigeon to talk more, and I can’t exactly pressure him without voting him.

January · July 21, 2021, 9:31am

January · July 21, 2021, 9:32am

I dont have anything to say personally. Still acting weird. Might be trying to cause chaos

January · July 21, 2021, 9:33am

Intentionally or not. I still think the vote is shifty

Zone_Q11 · July 21, 2021, 9:34am

Instead of checking what the claim on Marl was, you focused on that part?
Isn’t what you’re doing a red herring?

January · July 21, 2021, 9:35am

I touched on it for a second, zone. And I instantly moved on.

January · July 21, 2021, 9:35am

And I was checking why they voted leafia, before the ping.

January · July 21, 2021, 9:38am

Leafia was trying to survive. It isnt nonsense.

You voted purely because the player annoyed you?

This proves you voted your townread by the way