I found their D1 scummy, though I forgot why, and they seem to be TMIing me Town. Possible MDet but could also just be scum. Scumlean, not as high priority as Whysper imo.
Alright. Now, if you were to take Silviu/Whysper into the equation, what would you get?
- I donāt recall Pigeon having any interaction with Whysper other than doing a 180 on cloned and voting Whysper after reading something from cloned.
- Clown started a wagon on Pigeon, which you believe is a CW to avoid Whysper exe.
Given these two information, do you think you are able to form a plausible pair with Whysper? If so, which one?
ā¦hm? Say, if itās one of the active players thatās orchestrating MLs, wouldnāt that mean that Whysper isnāt scum, but a ML?
*same logic applies to Pigeon though.
A lot of my thoughts fell into what other people had already stated.
Iāve not really seen anything to do with Cloned that made me suspect him, same goes for Eli, I donāt trust Pigeon whatsoever thanks to EoD1 and SoD2. January I think has done slightly better today than yesterday but heās still someone I wouldnāt mind seeing dead, Iām unsure on Vulgard as what he did yesterday with his sudden read flip on me and vote really pinged me the wrong way, I think Marl is Town after yesterday as it felt less like a Mafia saving themself and more of a Town who trusted in what they were doing, I think at Marlās situation that Mafia would just bus Marl, I think youāre good and youāre helping me out, Iāve not seen much from Silviu or min apart from sudden one-liners, Nuclear rubbed me the wrong way with their own EoD1 yesterday but others brought this up and I didnāt bring it up at the start of today as I was focused on Pigeon, and I think Windward is good after yesterday with their aggressive outburst.
Those are my current thoughts on everyone.
I can see the TMI part. (I honestly donāt know how she townread you for switching from her to Whysper.) However, I still townread her.
Her D1 wasā¦ chaotic, as she attempted to create new wagons, but the intention was to steer away from the thunderdome, which looks very towny to me.
Also, January currently scumreads her for making him vote and thereby kill Leafia at EOD.
Given these information, do you still think she is scum?
Have you read the reasons why people are suspecting him in the first place?
ā¦? Why are you mentioning Eli out of nowhere?
But do you townread him or scumread him?
FTR, you do realize that Silviu got subbed by Whysper, right? Speaking of which, did you read why Windward is pushing for Silviu/Whysper a lot?
I have a bad memory. Which aggressive outburst are you exactly speaking about?
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Is he? I honestly havent been paying attention. Now it just looks like hes been throwing shade lol.
More impotant question is whether it is also in their town range.
Something I cannot answer as I do not know them enough
Also I no longer townread eli as they have 110 posts which is below volume clear
I am not townreading nor scumreading cloned.
I see some reasons as to why people might scumread cloned (i.e. early scumread D1, quick scumread on Whysper), but I donāt agree with them. (At least, not those two.)
ā¦hm? You townread Eli solely based off the volume of his posts? Is this a meta thing?
Nuclear already said she isnāt the MD
Basically the association reads in my notes say that Whysper/Clownzu is a possible team, Whysper/pigeon is a possible team, but never pigeon/Clownzu. I suppose that doesnāt really help you because we already reached that conclusion. But right now Clownzuās and pigeonās alignments sort of hinge on each other.
yeah, I mean I did consider that. But because of the fact that I pushed Silviu yesterDay when nobody else had a strong scumread on him (unless you count Leafia but she sheeped my case because it involved her slot) despite a couple of people momentarily voting him and then hopping off to go somewhere else, I feel like there is actually wagon resistance. Hence I said I thought wolves wanted to steer attention toward pigeon instead; that read is mostly related to the wagonomics surrounding Silviu/Whysper. If Whysper is a mafia goon I could see her scum partners risking the possibility that she gets voted out, without hard pushing a counterwagon but just sort of suggesting the existence of one. Not sure if you get what i mean, but I can clarify further if you want.
me acting like poop and telling January to stfu because they got on my nerves when I thought they werenāt going to
what I noticed in his last wolfgame is that he did do some things that he also does as town, but he was also missing some of his towntells. And it was hard for me to figure out if it was because he was being a cautious wolf, or because he got busy and subbed out so he really didnāt post as much as usual or interact with the thread as much. Usually he talks a lot before formulating any sort of reads, picks one or two people to ask their opinions on others and whether they have any meta knowledge of those players, and then he starts to work from there. But in his wolf game he just interviewed his own teammate, didnāt give any thoughts based on that, and was less interactive than usual (and as I said, I canāt tell if itās because he was just busy, or if he was being cautious in the thread because he was wolfing for the first time).
What I did see from him in this game is something I havent seen before. He was perfectly happy to let me lightly defend him from scumreads when he was a wolf, because there were some people who were very suspicious of his slot and I just went āSilviu is doing Silviu thingsā and slapped a townread on him.
In this game, however, he went at me for pushing him and went āyou donāt usually read me like this, Wind, why are you doing it?ā which was a bit weird. Iāve pushed him before, I know he gets pushed a lot as LHF by people unfamiliar with his meta, and he didnāt react the same way this time when I started pushing him and Leafia picked up on it. He started to shade my slot for pushing him for TMIāing Leafia as town, but he did not go after Leafia, despite explicitly telling me that he did not townread Leafia and had her at a null.
This factored into my read on him more than just the one post he made that I thought displayed TMI, because his reaction was quite a bit OMGUSy and also seemed to display TMI. It looked like a newbwolf who had gotten caught, whether for the right reasons or not, and wasnāt sure how to handle the push on him.
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kinda
I explained this whole thing with silviu before but i donāt really think anyone read that post lol
- i mean heās a pretty bold guy
- thats the only thing he has going for him; i dont put it out of his scumrange and the rest of his iso is just bleh
ā¦?
Does this say āim town if i act scummy and dont defend myselfā?
What
Dafuq is this comment
Dont read too much into it lol
Itās a meme from warrior cats where three separate people ccāed the actual jailkeeper
you should know this is much too bigbrain for me
Underwhelming 
Yep. I guess this is where this topic ends.
No. I get what you mean. However, this thought process also removes any other suspects from gaining traction. Because anyone who gets voted would just become an excuse for you to say that there is a resistance on Whysper.
You are essentially forcing Whysper to die toDay.
ā¦ @Clownzu, that is in no way a proper reason to townread Windward. Anyone can talk shit at January, but it says nothing -absolutely nothing- about their alignment.
Cloned, if Marl is scum, then we are getting wrecked pretty soon. Do you honestly think that resolving Marl is a higher priority than resolving Whysper?