[VFM] Elf Gold Rush - Game Over. Humans Win!

Really, the biggest problem with Marl I see rn is that Marl has been trying hard to push villagers all game, yet still asks to be “sheeped or voted out.” That’s not helping the village if he’s town, and it hasn’t helped the village. He’s still making the game about himself at various points, and putting us in a deadlock where we supposedly have to either vote out him, or the person he’s wolfreading.

Now, this is pretty much suicidal play as W, but it really has worked for him so far, and it has killed numerous villagers. I’d expect town!Marl to realize this and change his approach, yet here he is today, this time pushing Zone and calling to be resolved by voting him off if we vote out Zone next. This is outright nonsensical of him, actually, since we’re one misyeet away from MyLo - and if he’s town, we lose the game if we listen to him and Zone’s town. Again, this is coming from someone who’s had the biggest hand in pushing villagers throughout the game (next to WWA, but I’m convinced WWA is just town and her approach hasn’t been like this most of the time). I know Marl’s tunnely, but I don’t think town!Marl is beyond subduing himself for the village’s benefit.

We agree on our PoEs, but this still bothers me a lot, especially if Zone is V as well. It’s been a consistent pattern that’s pushed us further away from solving and winning the game. And I do realize that he hasn’t been entirely like this today; his push on Zone and the way he approached it is only a part of what he’s done today. But the fact his play pattern has remained mostly stagnant, his results have been terrible, and yet his conviction has not fluctuated much, is very concerning.

I do appreciate the fact he dialed it back a bit today, but those tendencies are still present, and I don’t want to lose the game because we sheep w!Marl all game. It’s possible he dialed it back out of sheer necessity.

I’m townreading him mostly on the grounds that his play wouldn’t be this suicidal if he were a wolf, but I’m starting to have second thoughts.

Admittedly, this wagon stinks, though, and the Leafia wagon is pure. If Marl is a wolf, the votes I’m really wrong about the game, and I mean really wrong. Like, City/January 1+ wolves wrong.

The votes mean I’m really wrong about the game. EBWOP.

wait vulgard you’re a genius

If Marl is a wolf then City/January are the most likely partners by far. Zone/cloned are both on his wagon and he’s pushing both.

But I think City and January have been very towny independently and there are good reasons to townread them.

if i can get a wolf flip on my wagon it means i’m basically cleared as town

like
actually cleared beyond belief
there is no way they pile drive a bus on me over a vote on leafia if they’re partnered
so i just need to figure out a wolf on my wagon

Theoretically it’s possible I’m giving both too much credit for being out of meta, but they are really out of meta fmpov. Ugh.

What if the wagon’s pure?

the only push i vocally advocated for was Silviu/Whysper so i really only got one villager misyeeted and didn’t bother pushing anyone else until today

I know it was an important push but I would like for people to consider why i would push for Silviu on D1 when literally nobody cared except for Leafia? I was sticking my neck out and was not being listened to until D2 after Leaf flipped town.

almost impossible right?

Um.
Marl?

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from my pov at least

i still don’t want to vote zone today and the reasons have nothing to do with marl

read that with the full context of the post
i’m saying if i were a wolf, my partners would never bus me over voting leafia
meaning if i can get a wolf flip on my wagon it hard clears me as town

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my bet is still on cloned because his reasoning on literally everything in this game has been shit
note how he acted so confident in his poe of pigeon/min/leafia and then didnt even vote in it, he voted marl instead of leafia as if he forgot about his poe, and said he wasn’t really serious but still hoped it was right

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btw this wagon does kind of change my opinion on zone
still more sus of cloned

i believe this

so i just need one wolf to die today and i’m hard cleared
if my wagon is pure this game was fucked from the start

i’m gonna check the leaf wagon too for comparison

wait where was cloned’s vote