Did he say he wanted city to live to the end?
Iām definitely not the most townread slot after squirrel, anyway. you are. If I were the most townread Iād probably die before F3 which Iād be pretty happy about.
Wanting someone to live till endgame is not the same as expecting someone to live till endgame
Is what Iām trying to say, but itās possible Iām misinterpreting your post (again)
Right now I donāt expect anyone will survive that I wouldnāt ever consider voting in F3
But I have my doubts weāll even reach F3 at this rate. We might reach F5 but Iām not super optimistic about beyond that.
Anyway, Zone is hard scumreading me,cloned is hard scumreading me, and I thought you were also scumreading me. But youāre saying Iām the next most widely townread for some reason when 3 slots including yourself think Iām a wolf, unless youāve changed your mind.
Did cloned ever give a read on Zone? Cause off the top of my head I donāt remember seeing anything.
You know what, actually
I donāt think Zone is a wolf if Vulgard is. I donāt think Vulgard would have any reason to bus teammates right now.
And Zone has like a universal scumread on him right now and is the player Vulgard said heād vote out first
Suddenly I donāt feel so confident that Zone is a hit
Is it possible that the wolf team is Vulgard/min/cloned? And that min and cloned have been staging theatre for distancing purposes and then Vulgard commented on them looking w/w to distance himself from both of them, as well as to help them if he flips first?
This is a heck of a lot of preflipping but Iām trying to think of angles I havenāt looked at before
I gotta go back and read my notes later on when I have more time to see if this makes any sense
Going to dive into Clonedās ISO now.
On a side note, Iām really worried by Squirrelās conduct in this game. I know Iāve assumed multiple times they are probably the PR. Iām not going to take that back; I still think thatās the most likely. However, if they donāt die tonight, I donāt think they should be entirely off the table. I still maintain that we probably shouldnāt vote them in final 7 no matter what happens, if they are alive. After that, though, if they keep living, I think they could be a wolf.
Anyway. Just stating that in case it isnāt obvious, because I donāt think it is.
And by āworried by Squirrelās conduct,ā I mean that I feel like they wouldāve done more in their position as town. They did at least write a full readlist, which assuaged my concerns a bit, even though Iām their top wolfread and Iām town. I hope weāll be able to vote out a wolf tomorrow, regardless of what happens.
Anyway, be right back with a cloned ISO.
This post stands out to me as unaligned with Leafia for POV reasons, but Leafiaās a flipped villager, so 
I still think this is pretty terrible, but weāve been over this. This feels like laying out agenda instead of genuine solving. He does say it was a joke later, but that contradicts how he treated it earlier.
Anyway, Iām just going to skip over this.
Actually, no. I donāt think I brought this one up before. This right here is proof that heās treating it like a genuine agenda. Instead of genuine solving, heās looking for evidence to fit his preconceived notion. He declares a team of three, and instead of checking if thatās actually a viable team, he looks for statements to fit his preestablished claim. The difference is that he isnāt playing by discovery, heās looking for posts that suit his preconceived notion.
This alone makes me feel heās super wolfy, but Iām going to give him the benefit of the doubt and keep reading.
I think somebody called this villagery, and in a vacuum, I agree. Maybe it was even me saying it was villagery. I donāt think cloned would push this specific angle as a wolf, but thatās kind of weak. Iād expect him to back off as a wolf when his logic is questioned, I guess?
I know I said I wouldnāt bring this up, but this is still terrible. How is it RVS when youāre already pushing an age-
Whatever.
This is actually noteworthy, because heās been wrong already, in this game, and yet heās still pushing for people I townread. Either his reads are garbage or heās just mafia lying about his mindset. I mean, he lightheartedly says that heās probably wrong, and yet he keeps pushing. And he has kept pushing for the entire game. Why keep pushing if you think youāre wrong? If he really has the mindset of his reads being bad, then he should sheep others. But he isnāt. He is pushing against consensus, yes, butā¦
Actually, I donāt even think a push on Windward is against consensus right now. Several people scumread her. It feels like Iām the only person who realizes sheās just town. Like, sheās been the solviest player in the game and the solving has never looked like agenda.
The bolded is wolfy.
The min remark is also random, especially in this context. The remainder of clonedās post covers clonedās catchup, but the catchup doesnāt involve min in any way. Why does his supposed read on min suddenly change? Min didnāt even do anything. Or at least, nothing that cloned cared to mention.
Considering heās pushing Leafia here, I think he couldāve just shaded his partner. Having TMI on min mafia would explain why he randomly calls min mafia without pushing min. But thatās not really conclusive.
Yeah, this is hard unaligning with January, I am confident on that. The way cloned reacts to this makes it very obvious this isnāt theater.
Note the bolded, however. There is still no explanation why cloned scumreads min. Yet, January lands in the same imaginary tier as minā¦ whoās there for no reason. At least, no reason given in clonedās ISO thus far. And having min in the same tier as another player lets him push January, if Januaryās town, instead of min.
I think this also confirms that January and min canāt both be clonedās partners, though he was unaligned with January independently anyway.
I donāt think him getting mad at this accusation is alignment indicative. Itās an objectively dumb accusation and I see him reacting like this regardless of alignment.
Yeah, if you doubted these were unaligned, then you have to see this part. The vitriol is completely unfounded if they are both wolves. And it goes both ways.
This feels very much like heās implying Windward V. I call this āthe appeal to town authority.ā It also feels like he thinks heās getting caught for the wrong reasons.
Same deal here, except Marl is here now. Like, the problem here is that he assumed either Marl or Wind would care to defend him. Iām not sure where he would have this certainty if heās town. He doesnāt know eitherās alignment. He doesnāt have reads on them. You could argue he townreads everyone who isnāt on his hypothetical wolfteam, but he also calls the wolfteam a joke, so. No.
What argument? He didnāt quote anything. I checked the full post and it has no arguments. Whereās he getting this āargumentā thing from? How can he tell itās ānot bsā when itās all off-the-cuff reads?
I like how he keeps every option open instead of trying to solve us right away. He doesnāt really seem to care. He just says we could be a pair of any alignment, which is lol. Itās like he wanted to have a point there, but forgot to include one.
Yet another player Iām reading who has barebones interactions with Zone, by the way.
Him calling January town is the towniest thing in this ISO so far. He had every excuse to tunnel January into the ground, but didnāt.
I donāt think this is AI either way. I do buy his frustration, I just donāt think it means anything for his alignment.
Yeah, this treatment shift on January is villagery. Heās basically walking away from an easy push he could-
I said nothing?
This push is almost too blatant to come from mafia, though. Like, heās outright saying āJanuary is a villager, but I want him to die.ā Thatās very bold of him if heās mafia (Iām avoiding the term āstupidā on purpose).
I would prefer if he actually stuck to reads instead ofā¦ this, but I think this looksā¦ okay. This isnāt wolfy.
Reading this makes me think thereās definitely a wolf between these two. I think clonedās end of their interactions is actually villagerier. He reacts in a very appropriate way. I donāt like basically anything else he did on day 1, but this is good.
Him moving on is a good look. He could be arguing for the sake of arguing, but he isnāt.
Him actually caring that Silviu is being wagoned is villagery. As a wolf, he has no reason to write this post. Why would he care about the Silviu wagon when itās a third villager wagon joining two other villager wagons?
Eh.
I think this is actually fine, even though he was wrong.
So, in summary, the first half of clonedās day 1 is really bad, but his interactions with January are actually pretty decent overall. I also think his end of day is fine, and he showed some care about the wagons where a wolf wouldnāt have to.
Reading the cloned/January interaction really makes me think thereās a wolf in there, though. Definitely not two, though. This is the hardest unalign in the game.
Notably, I also donāt see anything on clonedās end that unaligns him with min.
I feel like Cloned has more things going for him than January does, surprisingly. That isnāt what I expected going in.