Do you remember the time where you were trying to take over the whole thread and thunderdome yourself and Elephas and called me Elephasā scumbuddy for defending them? I remember that time. Can you just attack my arguments instead of just repeating that I am a scumteam with Sulit 20 posts over with seemingly no new information? Why canāt I just be townreading Sulit?
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This shows that Leafia changed their mind on me/Sulit vs you compared to yesterday.
I donāt think youāre ever the night kill here but if you do die tonight, then Sulit definitely deserves a second look.
I wish I could be that confident Derps.
I also donāt like the interaction between Callmelo and Sulit admittedly. Itās just making lo look even worse in my eyes.Even though scumslips do exist, itās like lo is just trying their best to make Sulit look as bad as possible and I donāt see how Sulit scumslipped here. Stuff like this is why Callmelo is currently in my PoE. I wish I could remember what WiM stood for. Whatās it stand for again? I forgot.
Also, wasnāt Vulgard voting Gorta? I might be wrong about that though.
What youāve been saying because itās just BS. Gorta hasnāt been townie in the slightest in any conceivable way. Scum is more likely to be trying to get you to push Sulit instead of Gorta, and that holds true even if Sulit is scum. If youāre town, your reasoning is terrible. Itās the same way that Gorta acted towards Mole and Mole was scum.
Youāre the one not voting the actual scum here. Or at least not the most likely scum. Gorta is far more likely to be scum than Sulit is.
The first team isnāt even possible because Mole was scum and the second team youāre agreeing with has you being scum along with Sulit.
Oh. Misunderstood what he was saying then, but Flameo is super unlikely to be scum here and Cat is absolutely never scum here.
The annoying thing is that Iām not even scumreading you/Leafia that hard, although I can see a pocket coming from either side. I have already ISOāed you and have yet to do Leafia however. Hopefully will have the time for that this nightā¦ canāt wait.
Think they were trying to make their buddy Flameo not a strong read yet now their read suddenly changed to Town because I think they are both the scum team?
@sulit I am curious for you to address this.
As promied, my readlist!
Thick Green: Locktown
Medium Green: Townread
Lime: Townlean
None: In PoE, or in other words, potential wolf.Explanations:
Wazza
i keep on forgetting to quote stuff, so basically:
- spends most of game defending himself. not sure if a bad thing because he specifically stated (4 times apparently) that he wasnāt going to give reads (if this doesnāt apply anymore then please give reads Wazza); also he pushes on leafia for a contradiction, which is probably a town thing
- doesnāt move vote. as before, idk if this is a good thing or a bad thing.
- literally it
personally Wazza deserves to go in the PoEdoes vulgard even need an explanation?
if Intensify could kindly explain (i dont feel like ISO-ing both of them) he could get removed from PoE
iād vote leafia had it not been for the fact weāre already at like, 3/5 votes? or something? and i dont want to end the day literally 45 minutes into it.
Iād like more explanations.
Hey Flameo, Iād love to know your reads and thoughts on the game.
Catloverās slot is scummy for following reasons:
They were wagoning Ashe on day 1, who flipped town.
While this was happening Moleland, who flipped scum, was a big counterwagon.
They preemptively sniped a possible reversal on Mole, by starting a CFD on another town, Gorta (who was also one of the easiest targets as lowest poster)
Most of their analysis posts posture way too much and are more about showing contribution than getting people pushed out.
They faked a metaread on Ashe, which Sirderps called them out on.
They were one of the latest on Molelandās wagon with an exaggerated ATEing reason. Like they could have set that up with Mole being intentionally annoying.
Elephas had them trending down in reads and they were killed that night.
SirDerpsAlot had them as scum since day 1 and they were killed last night.
I never act the way Iāve been acting D3 and today as scum. I never give up as scum and I was willing to get lynched D3vand that absolutely never comes from scum!me. Name one time Iāve ever given up as scum and accepted myself as a potential lynch.
Gorta used this defense too. If youāre using the same defense as him, and youāre town, then I pity you. That didnāt work for the last villager, what makes you think itās going to work for you?
hey leafia
instead of spending all your time LAMISTing
maybe you could you knowactually explain why im scum
since youāre voting me and everythingā¦
That would indeed be helpful.
Gorta actually being town was the biggest thing that got me to change my mind. Callmelo was correct about that so it got me to thinking what if heās right about the scumteam too?
Are you basing your reads on what Io thinks? Independent reads where?
WE
ARE
NOT
FLIPPING
PEOPLE
FOR
SPEW OR WHATEVER
got it
Yeah, weāve already yeeted gorta partially on that basis, Iām not doing that again.
Sulitās wim has beenā¦ fairly consistent, actually? At least the way I see it. I donāt understand.
Leafia ALWAYS kills Vulgard here.
No? I townread her at EoD. There was no indication that I would flip my read completely.
Trust me look at Flameoās Last Posts in his ISO.
Youāll notice that from a Scum!Flameo PoV he canāt kill me or Vulgard.Not just that but Flameo is ALWAYS voting Leafia here. Heās never going to vote anyone else. Because Leafia is his mislynch target.
Then Wazza will probably become his next.
I could kinda see that?
Think about this.
Flameo and Suilt are playing you.
You need to lynch the scum!
Thing is, your reasoning for yeeting both, especially Sulit, doesnāt hold up.
Derps NK still only makes sense in a Scum!Flameo World.
Derps NK makes sense as a JOAT hunt. I literally have the only pelt in the game and everyone townreads me, yet Iām still alive. They donāt think Iām JOAT.
Think back to the katze kill. Their top scumread was a villager. They were not posting as much as we are all accustomed to. They still got killed.
I really donāt think the wolves are killing the people who scumread them this game.
Leafia/Io vs sulit/Centuries
PK and Intensify kinda on the sidelines.
I will organize a readslist tonight. Gotta work now.
Catloverās slot is scummy for following reasons:
They were wagoning Ashe on day 1, who flipped town.
While this was happening Moleland, who flipped scum, was a big counterwagon.
They preemptively sniped a possible reversal on Mole, by starting a CFD on another town, Gorta (who was also one of the easiest targets as lowest poster)Most of their analysis posts posture way too much and are more about showing contribution than getting people pushed out.
They faked a metaread on Ashe, which Sirderps called them out on.
They were one of the latest on Molelandās wagon with an exaggerated ATEing reason. Like they could have set that up with Mole being intentionally annoying.
Elephas had them trending down in reads and they were killed that night.
SirDerpsAlot had them as scum since day 1 and they were killed last night.
Iām going to feel really bad if youāre a wolf writing this, but this case looks convincing.
It seems we both agree on our reads on CatLoverās slot, although our reasonings are different.
My reasoning was the basis that PK and CatLoverās slots basically feel as if theyāre two different people (While they are, you get the point Iām trying to make)
Doublecheck it please, I didnāt go back and doublecheck some of these facts by rereading posts, but just gathered it overtime to keep it in mind.
SirDerpsALot- Died N3 - Vanilla Townie- Wazza
- Centuries
CatLoverPsycho King- Vulgard
an_gorta_pratai- Executed D3 - Vanilla Townie- sulit
- CallMeIo
Elephas- Died N2 - Vanilla Townie- Leafia
Moleland- Executed D2 - Mafia Goonash4fun- Executed D1 - Vanilla Towniekatze- Died N1 - Vanilla TownieWispIntensify- Flameo
Look, if this gamestate continues, final 5 is going to be something like Leafia/Io/sulit/PK/Wazza and we are never getting the wolves at this rate. Instead of tunneling each other, I would like you all to re-evaluate everyone. Iām trying to take things from scratch today, and Iām not sure if Iāll be able to re-read the entire game, but I will strive to view everyone objectively.
Everything CatLover has done, (notably):
This worries me slightly! Ele claims to have 3 people under the FoS but in the end didnāt vote one of those three. Likely just a miscommunication, but I want an explination. @Elephas, do you mafia-read Moleland and have him under the FoS, or is there a different reason for placing that vote?
Elephas, who I believe is now dead, was called out by CatLover because they voted Moleland. It honestly seemed like they wanted to avoid attention on scum earlygame (Which you can tell by their take on memeing during this game)
I will say, their posts are really along butā¦looking back on them, they feelā¦filled with repeating points as if they were made to look like theyāre doing a lot of work.
Additionally, they didnāt like Katzeās slot.
CatLover attempted a CFD from Ash (A player they suspected from the start of the day) towards Gorta, who was also Town.
Flameo and CatLover agreed on a lot of things, including my existence. They were the reasons for my lynch not occuring in the past few days.
They placed Moleland on their top scumreads, keep in mind this does not matter as Moleland was a top scumread for most players.
Earlier they top townreaded Vulgard, now they were having doubts.
They pushed hard on Mole, but looking back on it and if you ISO it yourself, something feels off about it.
You pushed Wiisp for attacking CallMeIo, and an_gorta_pratai. Iām not even going to get in to the fact that Wiisp was not even pushing an_gorta in that push, because itās irrelevant. What is relevant is that you are claiming to, in part, mafia-read Wiisp because they are pushing players who you believe are town. That is the definiton of preflip associations!
/vote moleland
@Moleland you are one of two wagons for EoD. You show NO care this EoD. No concern, Do you not care? You are posting emojis and talking about friendships and all that other silly stufF!
Moleland did this in a game where they were scum, unsure if they would know that or not.
Itās really good that we got moleland! I was unable to figure out how to quote last night, it seemed broken! It made my cases a lot harder to do and so I decided I would jot down a few notes and finish them today. I will probably be busy for a couple hours, but I should have time later!
And then we switch to PK who I wonāt add to this post.
final 5 is going to be something like Leafia/Io/sulit/PK/Wazza and we are never getting the wolves at this rate.
why am I going to be in final 5? Iām literally in everybodyās PoE?
Exactly. If youāre town, wolves never kill you.
But, Iāll be lynched? Thereās no way to defend myself if a wagon hits me and Iām 100% sure everyone knows this by now.
ā¦Exactly. Wolves want a potential easy misyeet wagon for final 5.
Fair enough.
Although, I feel like we will hit a scum today or tomorrow, I doubt weāll keep going down the line.
/vote PsychoKang
I made my mind, my vote is going to sit here for now.
Vote Target | Voted By | Votes |
---|---|---|
sulit | Leafia, CallMeIo | 2/5 |
Leafia | Vulgard | 1/5 |
PsychoKang | Flameo, Centuries, Wazza | 3/5 |