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[CallMeIo]

@Wisp

@CallMeIo

If Flameo was scum pushing me.
He at least had an genuine reason to do so.

no thanks

@CallMeIo

Pressure Vote.
Yes.

Pressure votes are fine, pushing people early to get the ball rolling is good, but asking someone to force a read that early in the game, and then voting them because they don’t just doesnt feel genuine
maybe he will get better for me, who knows, but I think my micro read is correct as it stands

That’s fine.
I just don’t believe he should be the elimination for today.

[ash4fun]

Sequence of events:

• I make two gut reads with some reasoning
• I tell CatLover they will be first for me to read
• CatLover points out contradiction with above
• I explain that the first two “don’t count” for the purpose of first read
• people misunderstand
• I further explain that I try do an in-depth read on everyone D1, and he would be first of that.

Notice that at no point do I actually intentionally say that the two gut reads are worthless or bad, at least not more than any read at that stage in the game can be.

@ash4fun

I said I’d hate it if someone was doing what people thought I was doing, which in fact I was not doing.

Let’s try again:

I was not trying to cancel my previous posts.
People thought I was trying to cancel my previous posts.
I wouln’t like it if someone actually were trying to cancel their previous posts.

comprende?

[Wisp]

yes, thank you for clearing that up

[Centuries]

do it

[Wisp]

that is fair

[Centuries]

You have too many null reads Kat you MONGREL

[katze]

how do you know how many nullreads i have or don’t have when i’ve only publicly expressed my opinion on like three players

[Centuries]

because you haven’t expressed your opinion on everyone but like three players

[Centuries]

anyone*

[ash4fun]

anyways it is now sleep time for me

I’ll probably get to isos and stuff around 1 tomorrow maybe

cya!

[katze]

you got me there

i don’t have too many reads as ive been kind of occupied irl for personal things

and i wasnt planning on going super high effort this game anyway

ill probably have more before EoD since it looks like everybodys posted a bit

except gorta with their 1 post

[Centuries]

ok u get a pass but if day 2 you do nothing big trouble

[katze]

i dont want a pass because that’ll just encourage me to be lazier than i already am :^)

after i sleep ill probably reread everything and see where i am

[Elephas]

@Wisp

explain to me, how your vote ended up on Moleland here?

Sure.

@Elephas

This is a rather serious accusation. From my understanding, a chainsaw defense implies both players are scum, no? A scum lean doesn’t seem to add up with this. Please expand on this thought process.

I voted Moleland to receive a response to this question. I would have voted Vulgard but he mentioned he was leaving the thread, so I placed him in my FoS group. Those under the “finger of suspicion” are people I suspect, but am not voting. Hence why Mole is not listed there.

@Wisp

I dont feel like quoting the second post as well, but exactly why are you waiting for Ash to give you content that makes you believe they are townie, when your first wall effectively had a list of 3 people you would vote, me/Vul/Mojo

Because they did not respond to my questions, when they were very clearly present in the thread. I voted them and re-sent the questions, with a ping. I don’t see an issue with this.

@Wisp

Why does Vul not being there, mean you shouldnt vote them, if you hate them the most?

At this point in the game I vote for reactions, as well as incentive to respond to questions. Vulgard stated he was “going to sleep” so I would rather not waste… 8+ hours on a train that will not yield any results. I have better things to do with my time.

@Wisp

Your read of Mole didn’t even change from your change of vote

Indeed it did not. Is there a problem with that? I got a response, and I asked another question.

@Wisp

Your words and votes do not line up, I think its all fake

My votes line up perfectly with my thoughts. I hope my explanations above show you this.

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@ash4fun

So if I hadn’t made it clear, those were my reads based off skimming the first 100 posts. I’m not sure why you think it’s impossible for me to miss catlover’s early game when I saw yours. I still need to read back but you had posted much more recently and were being actively discussed when I got on. Perhaps you are right in that it would be more likely for me to see catlover and miss you, but I’m not sure that it says anything that the opposite occured

This response has a genuine feel, and makes logical sense - I do understand subconsciously paying more attention to players that posted more recently. I also do think it is hypocritical of me to call you out for not seeing Cat’s early-game posts, when I missed sulit’s vote on Leafia at the start of this game.

I will, however, be staying here until I see your analysis on the “isominiwalls,” or at least until I find a better place to park.

@katze

do i have to

id rather just relax and vibe read posts as they come

Nonchalant attitude. I do like that katze is not forcing reads when prompted. Natural progression is always better than creating a case out of thin air.

[CallMeIo]

The only one we are missing so far is Gorta right?

[Elephas]

Indeed.

Hm. Looking at the “Frequent Posters” section is interesting. I feel like I have done a lot more than the postcount shows. Twenty-four posts in comparison to Leafia’s ninety-eight is quite a big difference.

What is the average postcount for a game like this? It already feels high.

[CallMeIo]

Day 1 or Grand Total?

[Elephas]

I was mostly curious about an average 48-hour day on this site. We are ~10 hours into the day, and at ~600 posts. At this rate we will be at… near 2500 at the end of this day. That seems very high. This is normal?

[CallMeIo]

This site is known to have high activity.
This is very normal.

[Leafia]

Can’t sleep and this list seems reasonable to me. I have to admit that Wiisp has been improvingving a bit and I’m starting th o wonder if I was misguided in calling them scum. As for yet targets, I don’t really have anyone that I think would make a good one yet, although I don’t exactly hate the thought of a Mole yet. If I had a GTH and had to pick a yeet target right now, it would be him.