[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - 😹 Pirates (Town) Win!

[Centuries]

but yeah me being this isolated is awkward

not even town wants to interact with me except for a few players just giving me random trs over idk what

[sulit]

Hi conboi

[Centuries]

wassup lilit

[sulit]

what do be your thoughts on the mole man

[sulit]

how does wazza have over 100 posts

[Centuries]

i think he weird

he’s too deep in his thing

maybe he flips town but like i have no idea how to read him and i really hope he flips scum

@sulit

wazza have over 100 posts

idk i think he might be scum aswell

[sulit]

waz is frusterating

most of his posts are just like

haha im not making reads

i guess he could flip scum
but

meh

[sulit]

@Wazza

Alright, we really gotta cut down these wagons.

i dont really like this post

yeah i just dont know about waz

he does a lot of talking but it doesnt really seem to go anywhere

@Wazza

I still stick with Sulit being a spiteful Town.
Mole I haven’t seen much from so I can’t give a red.
Vulgard I will decently say he’s been acting suspicious this game and raising red flags.
Gorta’s inactivity isn’t really a scumtell. What is a scumtell however is finding out if he’s getting annoyed about certain reads on him.

these reads don’t really make sense with what he’s said before in thread

and he hasn’t really pushed them

but i dont know if I should expect that even with how he’s been playing the game so far

annoyed noises

[CatLover]

Did you read his puss on CallMeIo? That’s the primary reason I think he has a decent chance of flipping town! I summarized why I thought so in my case but it’s good to look at it and just formulate your own thoughts.

[Leafia]

This post made me laugh out loud admittedly.

[Leafia]

@CatLover

Did you read his puss on CallMeIo?

Another thing that made me laugh.

[CatLover]

Ah! Apologies, I meant to say *push. I guess I am a little tired. Apologize for that one .

[Leafia]

I know and no need to apologize.

[sulit]

doot

@Wazza

That doesn’t feel like good reasoning to back someone up this early in the game.

@Wazza

You’re only saying that since I see no reason for you to defend someone this early on in the game unless you’re scum buddies.

Like, be real with me here, what do you do if Ash flips scum?

@Wazza

@CallMeIo

Then I guess I’d be wrong wouldn’t I.

That’s…what? You know what I’m asking, how would you defend yourself?

@CallMeIo

you could be scum allowing it to go through.

I’ve literally never stated I scumread Ash or anything of the sorts.

@CallMeIo

You voting yet?

No.

@Wazza

Uhh…Yeah no.

/vote Io

@Wazza

I changed my mind. Can’t I change my mind around here?

@Wazza

Io, you haven’t explained why the wagon looks unpure.

@Wazza

I never stated I was for the ash wagon? I literally stated in my post below ‘I have never stated I scumread Ash’

@Wazza

@CallMeIo

You don’t even acknowledge my reasoning

I acknowledge your lack of reasoning, if that’s what you want me to say.

@CallMeIo

you think someone flipping scum forces me to defend myself simply because I was wrong about them?

Yes because that’s how these forums work now get used to it. If you defended someone this early on and they flip scum, you are going to have to defend yourself since that is a horrible look on you.

@CallMeIo

Seems to me like you just desperately wanted me to changed my mind about Ash.

Desperately? I don’t even scumread Ash, nor care about his wagon. I was bringing up a point and playing Devil’s Advocate.

@CallMeIo

My vote today is on Mole or You.

OMGUS but ok.

@Wazza

Yeah I want you voted since 5 times you’ve been asked to explain why the Ash wagon is unpure and 5 times you have ignored the question.

@Wazza

Your argument is horrible that even I’m getting annoyed and I was the one annoying people earlier.

@Wazza

I can’t even see this argument coming from Town. Your reasoning makes absolutely no sense, not to mention you constantly ignored the people asking about your point, and then when asked about it, you change your complete mind on it and state something completely unrelated and something that wouldn’t matter with it. It seems more like a scum saving a fellow scum, but shrug.

@Wazza

@CallMeIo

I think I probably have the entire scum team.

This is horrible attitude for D1.
You more than likely won’t be close and I can attest to that since you’re suspecting me.

@Wazza

@CallMeIo

Have you played FM before?

I’ve been playing for almost 2 years, asshole.

@Wazza

@CallMeIo

Have you seen Day 1 Mislynches?

Yes.

My first game was literally me getting D1 mislynched and because of that Town derailed into a loss.

@Wazza

@CallMeIo

Did scum push you?

Nah, a Town did who got converted into Scum.

@Wazza

@CallMeIo

Never said I was certain?

@CallMeIo

I think I probably have the entire scum team.

Maybe not, but close if I don’t.

Yes, you did.

@Wazza

@CallMeIo

Since when is Mole inactive?

…When did I state Mole was inactive? I was responding to Centuries who stated you were pushing on inactives.

@CallMeIo

Seems to me like your defending him.

Literally didn’t mention Mole at all.

@CallMeIo

How would you defend yourself if Mole flips Scum?

By getting my fellow scum to defend me of course :^)

@Wazza

@CallMeIo

But that’s the only person I’m pushing.

You’re legit pushing me, you literally just- you know what, I quit, I’m too tired for this shit today.

@Wazza

Your words actually:
‘mY VotE tODaY iS oN mOle Or yOu ’

@CallMeIo

My vote today is on Mole or You.

@Wazza

I swear are you a goldfish since you’re forgetting what you’re saying every 2 seconds.

@Wazza

You hurt my head when you contradict yourself.

[Elephas]

@Moleland

you say me being willing to die is scummy, how would you consider me if I was unwilling to die?

I’d be more inclined to consider you town. Usually a member of town has more will to live, and cares to share their thoughts before they die. I am here and willing to be convinced that you are town, but so far I have seen nothing that has made me want to move my vote.

@Elephas

Convince me to vote Wiisp. Perhaps you will be successful.

I gave you a possible way to get me off of your wagon, and you did not provide anything.
It seems as if you ignored this, as you responded to what I said immediately following this sentence.

You want Wiisp dead, but I do not see you doing anything to convince us they should die

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Here is what you said regarding Wiisp before I asked you to convince me to vote them.

@Moleland

@Wisp

how do you not have a wolf read?

Targetting LHF

This does not read as targeting. There is nothing to suggest they wolfread the player they are asking a question to. This question could come from either alignment.

@Moleland

Also has spent most of the day filling the thread with hating lo who is obvious town here.

Please point me to where you explained why Io is obvious town.

@Moleland

@Wisp

this has nothing to do with playstyle, his posts suck

Dictionary definition of an OMGUS read on me

OMGUS is accusing someone because they accuse you, unless I misunderstand the definition. While Wiisp said that your posts suck, I don’t think they are pushing you because you are pushing them. OMGUS would be more like “their push on me sucks.”

Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.

@Moleland

@Wisp

Who wants to join the anti-Lo fan club?

This is a stupid question - Scum trying to look casual?

I do slightly agree that this could be scum attempting to look casual, but I don’t think it should be more than a small factor in your read on them.

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Aside: The thread feels dead right now. Yes, there are people posting, but there is not a lot of discussion going on. I am bad with thread-reads, but something feels off. There’s a reason its quiet. Please help me figure out why.

[Elephas]

@an_gorta_pratai @Wazza

If you are town, you have an obligation to make yourselves readable. Please contribute. Read through the thread and give your thoughts as they come to you. Spill every word that comes to mind.

If I cannot remember a single post from either of you (aside from Wazza claiming VT), there is a problem.

[Moleland]

Ok you are definitely town here.

Hopefully I have more time later tp explain my read.

[Wisp]

Lo is not obvious town, his play here is actually more likely to come from a wolf, but the fact that he is probably the joat is something I have to consider

[Moleland]

There’s no way they are a wolf. Like are you for real? No one interacts with the thread like they do as scum.

[Wisp]

Doubt, I’ve seen wolves play like this before
There is nothing that telling that makes him come off as townie