[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - 😹 Pirates (Town) Win!

[Flameo]

@an_gorta_pratai

@Flameo

… What read is not a TR there? I literally quoted all of the reads in that readlist that ended up with a conclusion of them being more than likely town. I literally quoted all of them

I was not a town read and Katze has other reads as well, so you should take a look at them all

@katze

an_gorta_pratai

1 post lol

@an_gorta_pratai exist please

Oh fucking please. This is such a semantic. An inactivity ping hardly constitutes a read at all. It’s just null.

I literally quoted all of them EXCEPT the one that was not a real read, so maybe stop being so condescending.

@an_gorta_pratai

@Flameo

I’m not going to spend time reading other games. I dislike metareading regardless. How is it scummy for me to have led to this conclusion without knowing your apparent meta?

Then don’t, but I am not a damn wolf. I think you are

Why tho.

@an_gorta_pratai

@Flameo

How is this in relation to the point? How does this make me scum?

I am explaining how I play this game

So, that’s not a reason for me to be scum.

@an_gorta_pratai

@Flameo

So… it was still a legit point for me to make. Concession accepted.

YOU WERE OUT HERE CLAIMING THAT SINCE TWO DEAD TOWNIES VOTED ME THAT I MUST BE A WOLF (Katze wasn’t hard pushing me and Ash was in self prez mode)

Where did I say MUST BE WOLF. I said you should be more heavily scrutinized. That’s what I said. And you agreed with me here, so how does this make me scum?

@an_gorta_pratai

@Flameo

Okay, so no case… just “gut” again.

If you are alive tomorrow I will make a case

Oh, again with the postponing. So you are going to wait until the game is over before you’d finally start to solve right. You are so good at it right, so why don’t you show us how it’s done and convince the rest with an actual case? There is no shame in your gutread falling apart then if you actually start reading. In fact, it’d make my goddang day.

@an_gorta_pratai

I just do whatever the hell I want and don’t give a crap about what people think about said thing at times. I spent the entire game SRing one of the most trusted TRs one time and I was right at the end of the day.

[CatLover]

Do you think it is in bad faith? How exactly has their push showcased agenda over a townie genuinely trying to solve your slot?

You don’t like how they are handling your slot, but how exactly are they poorly handling it? Can you walk me through that?

[Leafia]

Not sure why but it has me feeling a bit uneasy all of a sudden. I can think of only two explanations for the quietness.

1: Mole’s scumbuddies have given up on saving him today.

This is the one I want to believe honestly.

2: We’re completely wrong about everything and the wolves know it.

I feel this isn’t as likely about number 1.

@Moleland

There’s no way they are a wolf. Like are you for real? No one interacts with the thread like they do as scum.

Insurgency!Leafia says hi. Callmelo is being almost exactly how I was in Insurgencyu, where I was a wolf.

@an_gorta_pratai

@Elephas

Moleland is the lynch today

I hard veto this

Not surprised at all that Gorta is against a Mole yeet.

We are not yeeting Flameo here. He’s a townie, so everyone with a vote on him, get yours off of him and preferably on Mole. We’re not going to do a repeat of D1 where we yeet another super obvious town. Flameo is never a wolf here. They haven’t even been remotely wolfy this game.

[Flameo]

@an_gorta_pratai

I don’t like how they are handling my slot tbqh. They have spent both days trying to get rid of me and constantly put shade on me. Those are my reasons. It just feels like they are a wolf trying to get rid of me in any way possible. If they live today I case that slot tomorrow

If I wanted so badly to get rid of you, I’d have just CFD’ed yesterday with the rest on your slot. I am putting shade on you, because you have done fuck all yesterday and now you are scumreading me without any reasons. That is aggravating.

[Flameo]

@Leafia

He’s

She, thank you.

[Leafia]

Sorry and you’re welcome.

[Flameo]

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@an_gorta_pratai

@Flameo

I will note that all of these are townreads, which is mildly suspicious. It’d be more natural if you had at least one scumread in here.
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I didn’t see where that list as townreads. Am I missing something?

… all the reads indicate a townread. You clearly did not read their readlist. Can you please be a bit more active? You’re doing a disservice to whatever team you’d be on.

I also think you had forgotten the original point down the ISO train, which is at least somewhat of a good look, because you’re terribly un-self-aware. Katze made a list of reads, I commented that it just contained townreads as if she wasn’t scumhunting. You say you didn’t even notice that they were townreads showcasing you did not read it and are thus less active, which was the point I was making here, which was just a true point. You have admitted yourself to be lazy, so how is that unfair of me to call out?

[CatLover]

I planned on getting to that ISO later, but I took a detour with the Vulgard one at Flameo’s request (Not blaming her!, it’s my fault I mismanaged my time)

I’ll likely make a case on him, and the other 2 I wanted to focus on (Centuries, and CallMeIo) overnight, to make up for what I lacked during the day phase.

It is my fault that I never was able to get around to that, and I am sorry that I disappointed you by not having my case ready, but I will make it up overnight, and provided I live to the next day, have those ready, and then focus on the last few slots I have yet to case.

[Leafia]

It’s crystal clear to me that the wolves have Flameo designated as the mislynch target for today.

[Flameo]

@Leafia

Not sure why but it has me feeling a bit uneasy all of a sudden. I can think of only two explanations for the quietness.

1: Mole’s scumbuddies have given up on saving him today.

This is the one I want to believe honestly.

2: We’re completely wrong about everything and the wolves know it.

I feel this isn’t as likely about number 1.

I feel exactly the same in this situation to be honest. Makes me feel slightly better about Leafia again, even though I noticed a flipflop earlier.

[Elephas]

@Arete

|Flameo|CallMeIo, SirDerpsAlot, an_gorta_prarai|3/7

@Leafia

It’s crystal clear to me that the wolves have Flameo designated as the mislynch target for today.

Which of these players are wolves to you?

[Flameo]

@Leafia

It’s crystal clear to me that the wolves have Flameo designated as the mislynch target for today.

I’d like it if it were this obvious, but I’m doubtful on that. Mole isn’t a slot worth diving into the fire for when they were already a top wagon yesterday. Simultaneously, I dislike everyone on my wagon and their “reasons” oh wait, how silly of me, it is gut right?

[Leafia]

Gorta I’m almost certain is a wolf at this point with Callmelo being a possible wolf although them being a villager is also a possibility. Slightly scumleaning them though.

[an_gorta_pratai]

@Flameo

Oh fucking please. This is such a semantic. An inactivity ping hardly constitutes a read at all. It’s just null.

I literally quoted all of them EXCEPT the one that was not a real read, so maybe stop being so condescending.

You only saw the first post with a few reads

@Flameo

Why tho.

I can’t convince you of crap right now

@Flameo

So, that’s not a reason for me to be scum.

I WAS NOT EXPLAINING WHY I THINK YOU ARE SCUM THERE LEARN TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES

@Flameo

Where did I say MUST BE WOLF. I said you should be more heavily scrutinized. That’s what I said. And you agreed with me here, so how does this make me scum?

Read between the lines

@Flameo

Oh, again with the postponing. So you are going to wait until the game is over before you’d finally start to solve right. You are so good at it right, so why don’t you show us how it’s done and convince the rest with an actual case? There is no shame in your gutread falling apart then if you actually start reading. In fact, it’d make my goddang day.

There are two hours left in the day and I stayed up all night to make sure I made it to the EoD, so you will wait on that case until tomorrow. It’s not like I could have a case made in time for the EoD

@CatLover

Do you think it is in bad faith? How exactly has their push showcased agenda over a townie genuinely trying to solve your slot?

You don’t like how they are handling your slot, but how exactly are they poorly handling it? Can you walk me through that?

Like I said I will provide a case on them later. I need to cool down first or else I might have a bit of bias when I re-eval and case things

@Leafia

We are not yeeting Flameo here. He’s a townie, so everyone with a vote on him, get yours off of him and preferably on Mole. We’re not going to do a repeat of D1 where we yeet another super obvious town. Flameo is never a wolf here. They haven’t even been remotely wolfy this game.

Here’s the deal, you prove how Flameo is towny in your own words tomorrow and I case Flameo to prove my reads

@Flameo

If I wanted so badly to get rid of you, I’d have just CFD’ed yesterday with the rest on your slot. I am putting shade on you, because you have done fuck all yesterday and now you are scumreading me without any reasons. That is aggravating.

“I have been shading you all game, but I am not a wolf I swear!”

[Elephas]

Disregarding the hedge on Io, this is about the answer I expected.

[CatLover]

I am in no way calling Flameo locktown, that would be very hyperbolic, but I think the way she has handled her pushes and the game is quite town-indicative!

That has admittedly broken down a little bit this EoD, but I suspect it’s due to (very justified) frustration. I am not going to vote for her today and I would like some strong reasoning from those who say we should, because so far, I do not think anything that has been presented against her has been remotely enough to override my original case!

[Leafia]

As for Derps, I wouldn’t even be surprised at all to see V!Derps trying to get a revealed IC lynched with how he plays as town.

[an_gorta_pratai]

I am cooling down now, but you can expect a case on you tomorrow @Flameo

[Centuries]

This anger feels genuine coming from Gorta who is a rather stoic player

[CatLover]

@an_gorta_pratai

@CatLover

Do you think it is in bad faith? How exactly has their push showcased agenda over a townie genuinely trying to solve your slot?

You don’t like how they are handling your slot, but how exactly are they poorly handling it? Can you walk me through that?

Like I said I will provide a case on them later. I need to cool down first or else I might have a bit of bias when I re-eval and case things

I mean, in that case, my apologies, but I won’t even consider the wagon! I’m okay if you do not think flameo is town, even if I disagree, but you should not expect others to vote with you if you do not have a case that we can understand and see your points.