Do not let our enemies get the best of us!
Once again, Moleland is a distancing scum. Heās the type of guy to push himself off a waterfall long before his buddies can fall.
Yeah but he only interacted with Suilt once when he had lots of opportunities to interact with them.
Letās check out his reads on Suilt.
I guess he only made Reads Day 1 but whatever itāll work I guess.
So they put Suilt as a TownLean because of their push on Wazza and said their push felt genuine.
His reasoning on his Wazza though is lol.
They had a very long read on Leafia but considering they interacted with Leafia the most itās not surprising.
Actually now I think Iām going to take a look at both Katzeās and Elephasās reads on Suilt.
While they had Suilt as a TR letās go over what they said regarding meta. āif sulits WiM suddenly drops in the next day (Day 2) then be very cautious of themā
Noted.
Katzeās reads:
sulit
katze:i dont get why me predicting what youād do is town AI of me
and i obviously disagree that im conscious about what i post as scum even though my last wolf game would support that theory, every other wolf game iāve had (bar my very first) doesnāt support this
katze:meta wise sulits doing okay
i was on her ass in her first few posts in her last wolf game and sheās kind of repeated something that pinged me in said wolf game (giving me an early townread) except in that game her justification was objectively false whereas here it feels more natural and, well, isnāt objectively false
katze:sulit actually making a push on D1 is >rand V
bonus points because it felt real
katze:fair
my standards are slightly low for a sulit D1 push and i think she met them
its more the fact that shes not just hiding in the sidelines and making shy noises really
katze:when sulit is a wolf they donāt want to exist
when sulit is a villager they usually want to exist
sulit wants to exist
sulit is very likely to be town
if sulits WiM suddenly drops in the next day (Day 2) then be very cautious of them as they can somewhat feign wanting to exist as a wolf but struggle to keep up the facade for long
her WiM sometimes dies as a villager too but its usually much later in the game
katze:Why
Iāll admit sheās been somewhat absent in the latter half of today but her first half of the day was fairly towny
Also when you saw my read list you didnāt even comment on sulit despite voting her, whys that
katze:In the former half of the day Iād disagree with your assessment
I probably should be a bit more concerned on how theyāve slowed down
katze:I donāt see it
I think if she continues to not exist that she should be yeeted tomorrow maybe
Not really considering a soolit yet today tho
He gives sulit a tentative townlean based on meta, then states that their push on Wazza is a good look. Please pay attention to the fact that katze said that if sulit drops in activity, they are likely scum. This is important to note.
Make sure this player stays active, and make sure they are providing real content, not just posting to look active.
He also mentioned this like I did and ended up being the NK over Vulgard who didnāt mention that.
Now Iām also beginning to believe Iām going to be the NK tonight because I brought it up.
Unless of course we can all get Suilt yeetāed today then I wouldnāt have to worry about that.
Ok yeah.
@Vulgard
@Flameo
@SirDerpsAlot
Their WIM Dropped Significantly.
Suiltās Post Count - 183
Day 1: 106
Day 2: 63
Day 3: 14
Their Day 2 Count is Half of their Day 1 Posts +10.
They havenāt really posted much this Day.
Letās take a look at their Day 3 Posts.
ā14ā
hello this is sulit
from the past
gonna look at people based on the mafia ā¢ flip
first person I wanted to look at is Wisp but I think heās semi clear because of Moleās push on them for the entirety of the game and because of this:
wait nevermind they changed votes
One thing thatās noticeable from this is
Everyone moved off the Mole wagon
So
Imma look at people besides Wisp that moved off
Also gonna look at Moleās push on Wisp more
I think refusing to give reasoning on it isā¦ semi weird? Canāt get myself to decide if thatās scum AI for Wisp
I also apologize in advance if this post ends of taking up a shit ton of space because iām using screenshots oops
EOD vote counts in order
eod stuff
Wisp -> Elphas to ash4fun
Elphas -> Wisp to ash4fun
Centuries -> katze to ash4fun
Centuries -> ash4fun to kat
Leafia -> ash4fun to CallMeIo
Wisp -> ash4fun to Moleland
Flameo -> ash4fun to no one
sulit -> Wazza to ash4fun
Wazza -> no one to CallMeIogorta -> no one to no exe
Wisp -> Moleland to ash4fun
katze -> CallMeIo to ash4fungorta -> no exe to ash4fun
katze -> ash4fun to CallmeIoash4fun -> Moleland to CallMeIo
Flameo -> no one to ash4fun
CatLover -> ash4fun to gorta
ash4fun -> CallMeIo to gortaWisp -> ash4fun to gorta
katze -> CallMeIo to gortakatze -> gorta to unvote
People on EOD:
Derps
Conroy
Wisp
Vulgard
Flameo
Mole
katze
ash
CatLover
Elphas
gortaAlrighty so.
I think Vulgard and CallMeIo look substantially better (like Vulgard wasnāt already town from last day but netuishtueshtshui)
CallMeIo because they remained on Mole and were an attempted CFD EOD.
Conroy is kinda ???
He didnāt have much reasoning to actually be voting kat, voted ash but voted off. He is eh. Eh.
Wisp also looks worse in my eyes, gonna ISO him and look specifically for thoughts on Mole/Ash because I think his ash vote isā¦ super weird.
I really donāt like how Elphas left a vote on ash and was there for EOD but didnāt really do much afterwards, but Iāve found them towny otherwise so Iād probably save this if I ever make it to Lylo <small which is doubtful.
actually I did this too aaaaI feel like gorta is almost TWTBAW. They vote ash even though they arenāt even really a wagon at a time, pushing them higher above Mole and kat leads a CFD on them. Iād like to ISO them after this but I think they should flip before anyone else tbh.
I canāt really decide what I think about Flameo. I think itās relatively towny that they were on EOD and unvoted ash, didnāt vote anything else so it makes me think theyāre unlikely to be scum, also their earlier interactions with Mole donāt seem to be w/w but I want to look back at this as well.
Derps was just on a vanity wagon the whole time. Which is a Derps thing to do. Not much thoughts about this.
CatLover is just town. I donāt think I could give a valid opinion on their EOD without being biased.
Gonna ISO gorta and Flameo next then, also Wisp too. Also wanna look at Leafia/Mole interactions. WHEEEEEEEEEEE.
Elphas ash/mole progression
This isnāt as bad as I originally thought, I think the progression makes sense here since there were more focused on ash most of the day.
I do kinda think itās weird they dropped their Mole read but not weird enough to drop them into my immediate POE.
Flameo/Mole
Alrighty so.
Flameo could definitely still be scum theyāre not clear. I think itās odd that they sus Mole earlier but they donāt really return to the read and donāt include them in their short list of reads afterwards. Their vote at EOD2 could be bussing because honestly Mole was always being lynched there, but their nervousness seems genuine. I think their reasoning for not liking the Mole wagon EOD1 was supported. They could be scum but I donāt think I want them lynched today. I do think if gorta flips scum theyāre more likely to be scum, as they voted ash over gorta at EOD.
So, flip gorta before Flameo, again.
Wisp/Mole
ASH
MOLE
The switch to ash EOD is kinda weird bc they were confidently on Mole beforehand, but they have reasoning backing both reads and it isnāt as scummy as I previously thought. Againnnnn would flip gorta before as they voted him before EOD.
Leafia/Mole
I think Leafia is fine ? Their progression on Mole makes sense and they basically scumread them all most all day. I think itās a good look theyāre the second vote on Mole too.
I forget if Leafia likes to bus, though. I also donāt think s!Mole immediately latches on to and focuses on their scummate, calling them town and generating a lot of content related to reading solely them. It feels more that Mole was TMIing Leafia town and trying to make content based on that to get townread.
SO
IN CONCLUSIONsoolit
Vulgard
CallMeIo
Leafia
CatLoverDerps
Conroy
Elphas
WazzaFlameo
Wisp
GortaI gradually got less focused while doin this so if anything doesnāt make sense please point it out to me because im a dummy sometimes.
E: Itās 2:57 right now and I forgot I wanted to look at how Mole pushed on Wisp as well and if it could be distancing, so Iāl do that after day starts and change my read if I need to.
They made this good post.
Iāll give them credit.
Within the next 7 posts their either contentless or they are just regarding the Mole Flip.
an_gorta_pratai:Mole and also I think this wagon is better /vote ash
uHhhH
an_gorta_pratai:Really now? Katze also says that Mole is likely town and wonāt vote Mole, so does Mole also have TMI?
an_gorta_pratai:My defense of mole
an_gorta_pratai:In regards to Moleland: I think mole is probably town. The paranoia of Leafia seems valid, Mole is pinging inactives for contribution, and their progression on slots like leafia seems fine. I just think this will flip town, but then again I havenāt seen too many Moleland scum games
an_gorta_pratai:In terms of todays execution we always go ash. I donāt know why in the hell yāall are voting Mole, but I think Mole is town. I wouldnāt lock that in, but we donāt get rid of Mole today
an_gorta_pratai:I would rather vote to no execute or vote a vanity wagon before I voted mole and voting any other wagon just balances it and puts it in the hands of mafia
an_gorta_pratai:If we arenāt CFDāing I am not voting because I will not vote my top town read
an_gorta_pratai:I will also not give scum the chance to pick between the wagons
an_gorta_pratai:Can I ask why we moved to mole vs ash?
an_gorta_pratai:Mole is not a wolf here
an_gorta_pratai:/no execute for now
an_gorta_pratai:because itās either voting my top town read of having it balance
an_gorta_pratai:They are town
an_gorta_pratai:Mole and also I think this wagon is better /vote ash
Did you even read my posts @Leafia?
an_gorta_pratai:Most of my ISO is me defending mole, which contradicts your statement about me ānot defending anyoneā.
an_gorta_pratai:What part of āno one touch Moleā isnāt hard defending?
an_gorta_pratai:Why in the hell are you doing this? I need to look at that slot again, but I donāt think Mole is a wolf
an_gorta_pratai:I will re-eval that slot in a bit, but I donāt think Mole is a wolf here
an_gorta_pratai:Thatās one of the reasons I think Mole is town. Scum!mole could easily bury Leafia, but Mole shifted a sr into a tr on Leafia. The only possible way Mole is a wolf off of that is if Leafia is also a wolf doing some 4d scum theatrics
an_gorta_pratai:I donāt have much more to say here. I still think this is likely town, but I donāt like the stuff about JOAT cover. I think the JOAT stuff could just be a difference of opinion though. I suppose you could say I have less of a TR on mole for it, but I donāt think I can call that slot scum yet
an_gorta_pratai:/vote Flameo I havenāt liked this slot at all. You can bury me for it and if you think I am wrong then donāt follow, but I want to see Flameo go
rmeosithuiht
does
does a scum even
say this
about a scummate
Then comes this one which Iām not sure is really that contenty. Itās more of a question.
The next post after this was just a quoted post and pinging Vulgard.
main point of the read is I think Mole was jsut TMIing Leafia town and trying to generate content based on that to get townread
This post came after a contentless post of a bunch of āZāsā.
i donāt really see it
itās in leafiaās townrange I think but I donāt really trust my read on their actual posts which was why I mainly looked at mole interactions instead
shrug
Then 1 contentless post and this to finish off their Day 3 ISO of ā14ā posts.
Like Suilt is slowly losing WIM.
Which according to Katze is a scum tell.
@Intensify
Suiltās in your SRās right?
Vote them please.
You seem really dead set on executing them today. Kinda odd, but really it could come from both town or scum.
Anyways, I will not vote Sulit right now.
Like I said, I am only 400 posts in and voting someone just because of 400 posts while there is 3000 posts total is not good, and is definitely not a good way to do this. When I finish the thread, I will make my decision on who I think is currently scum.
Fair enough.
Anyways I go back to reading this thread.
Although if EoD hits and you havenāt finished reading will you still vote someone for EoD?
Anyways I go back to reading this thread.
Ah.
Looks like you plan on making sure it gets done before EoD then.
Carry on.
Iām gonna be skim reading this very quickly so I will most likely finish reading. If EoD hits and I somehow have not finished reading, I will not vote. I do not want to mess up anything that might have been planned.
I like this response and Iām no longer uncertain where I stand on your slot.