me too
Update: forums appear to be back, since they werenāt out for very long EoD is still at the same time
What do you actually think it says about their alignment that they push like this? Iām kind of on the fence.
Like the last 100 posts is just Io and Leafia talking about how right they are and 100% know the exact scumteam. I find it unlikely they are a scumteam, but there is just zero doubt or confusion after having been demonstrably wrong before, itās weird. Io on Elephas, Leafia on Gorta.
like itās literally what elephas warned us about
SDA was probably killed for PR hunt seeing how he basically softed it for the past 2 days + even if his reads are right, he wasnāt making the effort that town derps would need in order to get other people on the wagon
Also someone metionned Gorta dying makes Sulit look worse!
Bro? Leafia? You were the main driving force behind that wagon? What the frick are you doing rn? Stop whatever youāre doing itās so harmful actually
The fact Io isnāt even trying to actually get people to see his reasoning is probably town AI sadly
Leafia though o_O
She literally claimed earlier her scum meta was to sheep wagons
Wtf?
How are they completely different. I am very much unaware of this. Please enlighten me.
Can you please not discredit a point and then go on yourself to try and do make sense of it? Do this step before. Katze townread me by the way. 
Flameo
Wisp Intensify
Leafia
Io
Sulit
Also omg if you use this
when her wim didnt drop enough for me to consider it being the actual truth
i will murder you
Vulgard
Catlover
Me
Wazza
hngh
Why donāt you mirror this logic on Ioā¦?
In what way? Iām going to make a case on this later tbh.
Why couldnāt it be any other world? Thatās quite an interesting burden of proof.
Except, I already had voted PsychoKangā¦ Maybe this is a sign you need to reevaluate or be more open-minded and listen.
Why couldnāt town Flameo say this?
Derps was also suspicious of Catlover/Psychokang.
Because I donāt want to mislynch just to rub it in your faceā¦ from the premise that youād be town. I have an open mind here, but you just donāt want to give good arguments on why Sulit is scum. I have responded to all your arguments with a solid refutation and you donāt address them.
They should not be the sole basis for a read. As I said before, I can explain any nightkill accusing any person alive through some kind of scenario. You have to ask yourself which scenario is more likely through that. This ties in to the article Elephas linked before and I showed you.
Substantiate this read. Why not look if they were present EoD, show that they donāt push their reads/cast votes. Why use post count as a proxy hereā¦ and have you done this āWiM analysisā for every player alive?
Do you remember the time where you were trying to take over the whole thread and thunderdome yourself and Elephas and called me Elephasā scumbuddy for defending them? I remember that time. Can you just attack my arguments instead of just repeating that I am a scumteam with Sulit 20 posts over with seemingly no new information? Why canāt I just be townreading Sulit?
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This shows that Leafia changed their mind on me/Sulit vs you compared to yesterday.
The annoying thing is that Iām not even scumreading you/Leafia that hard, although I can see a pocket coming from either side. I have already ISOāed you and have yet to do Leafia however. Hopefully will have the time for that this nightā¦ canāt wait.
Iād like more explanations.
Catloverās slot is scummy for following reasons:
They were wagoning Ashe on day 1, who flipped town.
While this was happening Moleland, who flipped scum, was a big counterwagon.
They preemptively sniped a possible reversal on Mole, by starting a CFD on another town, Gorta (who was also one of the easiest targets as lowest poster)
Most of their analysis posts posture way too much and are more about showing contribution than getting people pushed out.
They faked a metaread on Ashe, which Sirderps called them out on.
They were one of the latest on Molelandās wagon with an exaggerated ATEing reason. Like they could have set that up with Mole being intentionally annoying.
Elephas had them trending down in reads and they were killed that night.
SirDerpsAlot had them as scum since day 1 and they were killed last night.
Gorta used this defense too. If youāre using the same defense as him, and youāre town, then I pity you. That didnāt work for the last villager, what makes you think itās going to work for you?
That would indeed be helpful.
Are you basing your reads on what Io thinks? Independent reads where?
Yeah, weāve already yeeted gorta partially on that basis, Iām not doing that again.
Sulitās wim has beenā¦ fairly consistent, actually? At least the way I see it. I donāt understand.
No? I townread her at EoD. There was no indication that I would flip my read completely.
I could kinda see that?
Thing is, your reasoning for yeeting both, especially Sulit, doesnāt hold up.
Derps NK makes sense as a JOAT hunt. I literally have the only pelt in the game and everyone townreads me, yet Iām still alive. They donāt think Iām JOAT.
Think back to the katze kill. Their top scumread was a villager. They were not posting as much as we are all accustomed to. They still got killed.
I really donāt think the wolves are killing the people who scumread them this game.
Leafia/Io vs sulit/Centuries 
PK and Intensify kinda on the sidelines.
I will organize a readslist tonight. Gotta work now.