[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - 😹 Pirates (Town) Win!

[CallMeIo]

One of you die*

[Vulgard]

@Vulgard

If your read on Flameo is correct, why did the wolves leave you alive?

[Centuries]

@Vulgard

If your read on Flameo is correct, why did the wolves leave you alive?

[Vulgard]

You are by far the strongest sulit/Flameo tunneler, especially Flameo. You could argue that Derps got killed while suspecting Flameo, but why are you alive? People townread you, too, it’s not like you would’ve been a bad kill. You also have higher influence and are unlikely to be protected by the JOATs despite that fact.

[CallMeIo]

@Vulgard

@Leafia

I never act the way I’ve been acting D3 and today as scum. I never give up as scum and I was willing to get lynched D3vand that absolutely never comes from scum!me. Name one time I’ve ever given up as scum and accepted myself as a potential lynch.

Gorta used this defense too. If you’re using the same defense as him, and you’re town, then I pity you. That didn’t work for the last villager, what makes you think it’s going to work for you?

@sulit

hey leafia

instead of spending all your time LAMISTing
maybe you could you know

actually explain why im scum

@sulit

since you’re voting me and everything…

That would indeed be helpful.

@Leafia

Gorta actually being town was the biggest thing that got me to change my mind. Callmelo was correct about that so it got me to thinking what if he’s right about the scumteam too?

Are you basing your reads on what Io thinks? Independent reads where?

@Centuries

WE

ARE

NOT

FLIPPING

PEOPLE

FOR

SPEW OR WHATEVER

got it

Yeah, we’ve already yeeted gorta partially on that basis, I’m not doing that again.

Sulit’s wim has been… fairly consistent, actually? At least the way I see it. I don’t understand.

@CallMeIo

Leafia ALWAYS kills Vulgard here.

No? I townread her at EoD. There was no indication that I would flip my read completely.

@CallMeIo

Trust me look at Flameo’s Last Posts in his ISO.
You’ll notice that from a Scum!Flameo PoV he can’t kill me or Vulgard.

Not just that but Flameo is ALWAYS voting Leafia here. He’s never going to vote anyone else. Because Leafia is his mislynch target.
Then Wazza will probably become his next.

I could kinda see that?

@CallMeIo

Think about this.
Flameo and Suilt are playing you.
You need to lynch the scum!

Thing is, your reasoning for yeeting both, especially Sulit, doesn’t hold up.

@CallMeIo

Derps NK still only makes sense in a Scum!Flameo World.

Derps NK makes sense as a JOAT hunt. I literally have the only pelt in the game and everyone townreads me, yet I’m still alive. They don’t think I’m JOAT.

Think back to the katze kill. Their top scumread was a villager. They were not posting as much as we are all accustomed to. They still got killed.

I really don’t think the wolves are killing the people who scumread them this game.

Leafia/Io vs sulit/Centuries

PK and Intensify kinda on the sidelines.

THAT’S WHAT IV’E BEEN SAYING!

Suilt and Flameo killed Katze and Elephas because they TR’ed them and they can frame others like they have been doing.

[CallMeIo]

Pretty sure it was also Flameo that used reasoning against Gorta. (Either that Or Suilt)
Like the intent was there and Flameo admitted it was there.

[Vulgard]

Mind taking a look at my towncase on Flameo?

[Centuries]

I find it weird scum Flameo would vote the slot I had just unvoted because it was at L-1 o_O

[Centuries]

Don’t really see the motivation O_o

[CallMeIo]

@Flameo

@Leafia

Their deaths were completely different and you know it. In a world where you’re not the scumteam, Callmelo would’ve been the night kill last night.

How are they completely different. I am very much unaware of this. Please enlighten me.

@Leafia

What was Katze’s view on Sulit and Flameo?

Can you please not discredit a point and then go on yourself to try and do make sense of it? Do this step before. Katze townread me by the way.

SEE THIS VULGARD!
This is exactly what I mean!
He is also keeping us alive because he wants you to believe him over me coming LYLO.
But don’t let that happen and get rid of him now!

Oh and @Centuries if you never want to lynch Suilt currently then I’m sure a Flameo Red Flip would change your mind!

[Centuries]

I’m not flipping people for the sake of flipping

[CallMeIo]

@Centuries

The scumteam cannot be both in poe otherwise I don’t think they kill SDA

PLEASE TRUST ME AND YEET FLAMEO!

[CallMeIo]

@Centuries

I’m not flipping people for the sake of flipping

Then flip people because they are Sxum

[CallMeIo]

Flameo is Scum

[Centuries]

@Elephas

As I said before, CallMeIo is either a straight-up wolf, or a terrible villager. Either way, their alignment will be apparent with more flips. Just do not allow them to control thread.

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[Centuries]

If I’m yeeting Flameo

it’s becuase I think they are w

not because you say so

[Vulgard]

We are not getting anywhere like this, we need to establish a consensus.

Wazza: ?
Centuries: “I dunno”
PK: Leafia
Vulgard: ?
sulit: ?
Io: FLAMEO
Leafia: sulit
Intensify: ?
Flameo: ?

Let’s collectively decide on the yeet instead of having everyone pursue independent reads.

[Vulgard]

“FLAMEO IS scum.”

[CallMeIo]

@Vulgard

@Flameo

Catlover’s slot is scummy for following reasons:

They were wagoning Ashe on day 1, who flipped town.
While this was happening Moleland, who flipped scum, was a big counterwagon.
They preemptively sniped a possible reversal on Mole, by starting a CFD on another town, Gorta (who was also one of the easiest targets as lowest poster)

Most of their analysis posts posture way too much and are more about showing contribution than getting people pushed out.

They faked a metaread on Ashe, which Sirderps called them out on.

They were one of the latest on Moleland’s wagon with an exaggerated ATEing reason. Like they could have set that up with Mole being intentionally annoying.

Elephas had them trending down in reads and they were killed that night.
SirDerpsAlot had them as scum since day 1 and they were killed last night.

I’m going to feel really bad if you’re a wolf writing this, but this case looks convincing.

HE IS

HE’S A STRONG PLAYSTYLE!

[Vulgard]

Suppose we yeet Flameo and she flips V. What then?