[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - 😹 Pirates (Town) Win!

[an_gorta_pratai]

I will also not give scum the chance to pick between the wagons

[Flameo]

@Elephas

I dislike this unvote. They seemed rather confident in the vote earlier in the day. They didn’t unvote because they dislike the wagon, or because they found a new wagon to go on.
We have time until the end of the day. Why can’t Flameo stay on ash while they read over others?

I do not want to pre-flip, but I do not like the feeling this gives me.

They were 4 -> 5 votes and I was reheating my dinner. Didn’t know if I was going to watch tv and eat or chat here. I clearly had rereading to do as well, so I actually did not want to get a consensus yet. I hope that explains it.

[an_gorta_pratai]

Can I ask why we moved to mole vs ash?

[an_gorta_pratai]

Mole is not a wolf here

[CatLover]

So you are refusing to vote because your top town read is one of 3 large wagons, but if you do vote, mafia can choose the wagons? How does this make sense, at all?

Town members use their vote so that they control the execution. The fact that you are refusing to vote, even to save your top town read, makes me have the feelings that all of the wagons are town/town/town and you do not want to look bad after a flip. Surely you must know it is anti town to not use your vote! With that mindset, you will never vote!

[katze]

i just realized vulgards opening posts are selfvoting and calling himself a wolf (historically they’re more memey as a wolf but they’ve toned their memeiness up as a villager somewhat)

and the fact they’re still yet to write a post that never comes from wolfgard

dont think i’d yeet him today still

but had i seen that earlier i’d probably have been more wary on him

[an_gorta_pratai]

@CatLover

So you are refusing to vote because your top town read is one of 3 large wagons, but if you do vote, mafia can choose the wagons? How does this make sense, at all ?

if I do try and save my top townread it likely gets balanced because of this

@Arete

In cases where two or more players are tied at the end of the day, the Mafia will decide which player is executed. They have up to half an hour to make this decision (for angleshooting purposes, the full half hour will always be used). They may submit preferences in advance, and if they do not submit a timely choice it will always be assumed that they wish to save a member of the Mafia if that member is put to rand with a member of the Town.

[CatLover]

Then why aren’t you trying to vote to save him, or suggesting a CFD? You are going to let the person you said is your top townie get executed. Why would one do that?

[CatLover]

@an_gorta_pratai

It likely gets balanced because of this

What’s so bad about this???!!!

I fail to understand what you are getting at, at all!

[an_gorta_pratai]

I haven’t suggested some to CFD to, but I have suggested a CFD

[an_gorta_pratai]

read the quoted section under that

[an_gorta_pratai]

if the wagon is t/t they get to pick the stronger player and if the wagon tvs they get to save their buddy from the execution, so letting it balance is a bad thing here

[CatLover]

Ok, but you can just unvote or vote somewhere else if it becomes close to rand! You are saying that moleland is never mafia, but are making no effort to save him. This is an inconsistent mind set.

[ash4fun]

@ash4fun

If I am JOAT, I will claim at Eod-20 if I think I need to.

It is now EoD-20, and I have decided to claim…

Nothing!

*King Bumi cackle*

but yeah that’s probably the move here.

[an_gorta_pratai]

@CatLover

You are saying that moleland is never mafia, but are making no effort to save him.

I don’t know think people will follow my vote

[Flameo]

@Arete

Vote Count

Vote Target	Voted by	Votes
Wiisp	Moleland	1/8
Moleland	CallMeIo, Vulgard, ash4fun, Wiisp	4/8
ash4fun	CatLover, Elephas, Sulit	3/8
CallMeIo	katze, Wazza, Leafia	3/8
Catlover	SirDerpsAlot	1/8
katze	centuries	1/8

I dislike CallmeIo, Vulgard and Ash, so the Mole wagon is awful to me.

Ash and possibly Io could be self pressing, so I’ll decide between these two if I’ll have to. I’ll read all their posts again now.

If anyone is up for a Vulgard CFD, I would go for it as well.

[an_gorta_pratai]

/no execute for now

[CatLover]

Then why are you not voting on an already established wagon? If you think that moleland is the least likely out of all established wagons.

[ash4fun]

@an_gorta_pratai

I haven’t suggested some to CFD to, but I have suggested a CFD

tbh if you don’t suggest a target for CFD this is only mild disapproval of all the current wagons.

[an_gorta_pratai]

because it’s either voting my top town read of having it balance