[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - 😹 Pirates (Town) Win!

[Elephas]

I will say that, after reading up on EoD after the fact, (And I apologize for not being around. Duty calls), I very much like the CFD attempt from CatLover.

I believe the idea that gorta could have been TMI’ing both Mole and Ash as town is a true possibility, as he refused to get on a train until pushed from many angles by many people. Basically - until he had to get on a train.

I find it interesting that gorta was not very present in the thread until he was voted, and again at the end of the day, which is usually a sign that a player is a wolf. Paying attention to when a player is present in thread is a valuable asset.

/vote gorta @Arete

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I will sift through katze’s Isolation now.

[CatLover]

At the End of the Day, katze’s biggest suspicions were on an_gorta (and they would have ended on that vote, if it were not for the fear of the rand.

They also had a fairly strong mafia read on CallMeIo.

The last thing I saw of much worth is some deep-wolf suspicion on vulgard.

I’ll take a look at their over-all reads list and then start focusing on the day ahead of us!

[sulit]

@katze

gorta yeet is semi acceptable

from his past games this game doesn’t feel very aligned with either his wolf or town games, he’s usually a bit more involved

with that said his wolf games all have asterisks next to them, as in they were LW, replaced in, or didn’t last long

@katze

just realized vulgards opening posts are selfvoting and calling himself a wolf (historically they’re more memey as a wolf but they’ve toned their memeiness up as a villager somewhat)

and the fact they’re still yet to write a post that never comes from wolfgard

dont think i’d yeet him today still

but had i seen that earlier i’d probably have been more wary on him

@katze

i wrote on them here somewhat

/vote CallMeIo

[quote=“katze, post:938, topic:83078”]
i didnt really remember too many of their posts initially so i took a reread

i dont really feel like they’re doing anything except making their own towncore

like they feel like they just exist in thread and i don’t feel like they add very much to it

@CallMeIo

However, I feel that Flameo’s response was genuine. I think scum would have said it differently.

He might be scum but I’m not going to jump to any conclusions yet.

like this is a unique thought

but there’s no meat to this bone, and the conclusion is second guessing themselves

@Leafia

Leafia: The hosts messed up and gave me her rolecard. Locktown.

@CallMeIo

Call me Bias.

But I TR Leafia for Bolded .

this too

why do you TR leafia for a joke that isn’t that uncommon on this site

the quotes kinda broke so im quarantining them here

[quote=“CallMeIo, post:346, topic:83078”]

[quote=“Moleland, post:192, topic:83078”]

@CallMeIo

Even though I’m Town)

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What does this even mean?
[/quote]

It means that my Rolecard is Green!

[quote=“CallMeIo, post:357, topic:83078, full:true”]

[quote=“Moleland, post:264, topic:83078”]

[quote=“Moleland, post:192, topic:83078”]

@CallMeIo

(Even though I’m Town)

[/quote]

What does this even mean?
[/quote]

This comment is a ‘Duh’ moment. There’s no reason to add the ‘Even though I’m town’ part of this post. It’s not like you can be friendly neutral in this game.

/Vote callmelo
[/quote]

Well I didn’t want anyone to jump to any conclusions.
If I didn’t say what I said someone might misunderstand what I’m trying to say.

[quote=“CallMeIo, post:403, topic:83078”]

@Moleland

But… Why was this comment needed?
[/quote]

Re-Quote my post and remove that comment and see for yourself.

[quote=“CallMeIo, post:432, topic:83078”]

@Wisp

Tempted to just policy vote Mole for 429
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But will you?
/Vote Mole
How about now?

@CallMeIo

@Wisp

I have a wolf PoE of like

Elephas/ Mole /Flameo, dont know if that makes sense as a team, but on an individual level they all bring posts that I hate
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I don’t mind this PoE.
Not sure on Flameo, but the other 2 seem fine.

@CallMeIo

Tier D - Good Chance to be Scum

Elephas
Mole

the progression on moleland here feels kinda wack

as far as i can tell i quoted every post in their ISO regarding moleland

wouldn’t mind seeing this player yeeted atm

wanna hear more progression from them though

Yeetus

[sulit]

Gosh darn the quotes broke

[Arete]

Vote Target	Voted by	Votes
sulit	Vulgard	1/7
Elephas	Leafia	1/7
an_gorta_pratai	Elephas	1/7

[CatLover]

Oh, JOAT cover. I don’t know if I have seen that before, but it makes sense in this set-up.

[Leafia]

That being said, I’m sifting that I used motion detect on Elephas last night and he actually did something. Now the scum will have to figure out whether or not I’m a JOAT or if I’m just a VT trying to confuse the scum to hide the real JOATs. Either could be true.

[Wisp]

Rip my town read…
Don’t care much for NKA, easiest answer is PR hunting
I’ll read their ISO again, but speculating on whether they were right or wrong doesn’t really yield any results we can use, since it’s easily manipulated. I’ll probably still talk about it anyways though

[Moleland]

Since leafia is taking me up on my idea.

I healed Vulgard

[Wisp]

Wtf are we doing… Give me a sec to get home

[Leafia]

Mole has moved to a townlean for me too since I don’t think wolves would suggest something like that.

[Elephas]

I am pausing my Isolation-dive quickly to address this:

I do not know if it is in our best interest to do JOAT cover?

It will be quite obvious to scum who is and is not JOAT based on the results. And losing JOATs early is not good.

Perhaps we should wait a single night more to do JOAT cover, so that we have more information from JOATs, in the instance that they are spotted and die.

[CatLover]

If we are doing JOAT cover, last night I used my tracker ability on CallMeIo, and learned that Io did not visit anybody.

[Moleland]

Mafia are vanilla goons so they won’t have any mech info to counter.

Plus if the joats have nothing they can lie too

[Elephas]

I will also not be confirming or denying whether or not I used an ability, and whether or not abilities were used on me.

[Leafia]

The evils won’t know who’s lying any more than the townies will. This post of yours I don’t like as why would town be against towncover? It doesn’t help the wolves at all while it helps the JOATs get their info out when it’s important for them to do so.

[Elephas]

That is quite untrue.

Perhaps a VT claims a track or motion detect on the Mafia member who used the factional, and the results they claim were that this player did not visit, or have abilities used on them.
That makes that player confirmed VT in the eyes of Mafia.

Do you see what I’m getting at?

It not only possibly confirms who a JOAT is, to Mafia, but it also narrows the pool, if it confirms VTs.

[Moleland]

A joat can claim a fake result if they have a useless result too

[Leafia]

Note here where Elephas somewhat engages in JOAT cover despite not liking the idea of it. Yup. Pretty sure I caught a wolf here. Or as the case may be, a dog.

[Elephas]

I suppose you are right? But I still do not know how to feel about giving Mafia potentially more information in an attempt to cover for JOATs, at least this early.

From my perspective it seems to be helping Mafia more than us?

I will have to think on this. I may be confusing myself.
Back to katze Isolation.