[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - 😹 Pirates (Town) Win!

You are not helping anything, Leafia.

Do not call players out who you believe are covering for JOATs, or players who may be JOATs.

Do that privately in your classcard.

It does not because the JOATs can lie too. Thej aren’t required to tell the truth. In fact, a JOAT who actually did see someone visit could lie about it and they’d become confirmed VT if mafia used your flawed reasoning.

I’m not the one actively trying to harm the town by being against covering and I’m not speculating on who might or might not be the two JOATs.

This is contradictory to your belief earlier.

The point is to allow JOATs to give their information, so that, in the instance that they die, it is confirmed mechanical information.
JOAT should not lie.

If a JOAT lies, and dies, people will take their fake information for granted.

I am done talking on this. I will not help Mafia any further.

Nothing I have said is contradictory and if town is smart, no they won’t because they’ll know there’s a possibility that the JOAT lied to stay hidden. Not only that, but lying and having mafia think they’re VT lowers their chances of dying a lot.

Im with Ele on the matter, this is more anti-town than good, and I don’t want any part of it

It has been statistically proven to help town if I’m not mistaken and what’s so anti town about it?

if I can have an idea of who isn’t/is actually a joat from this non-sense
then Wolves can too

if the PR was a lets say an alignment cop, then cover away, but it still ends up lowering the PoE either way, in my opinion

the above is ok, because at least if one of the fakers dies, we can assume that their check was correct, here, this information does nothing for us

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Except ppl t that we can’t really tell and how else will they get their info out if they have any?

That’s enough talk on this topic.

Do not attempt to do JOAT cover.

If you are JOAT, hide your information in the form of a read. It’s common sense.

Perhaps tomorrow we can discuss this again, but for today, drop it.

not gunna say more on the matter though, mafia can eat the wine in the above post of mine

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^^^

And when your read goes against what you previously thought, the wolves will know that you’re a JOAT. That’s the one thing wrong with this. Not sure what to think of Wiisp agreeing with Ele, but I hate how against JOAT covering Ele is. Not JOAT covering only makes it more likely for the JOATs to die.

this might blow ur mind, but the best joat cover
is nobody talking about the joat
:roll_eyes:

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That also doesn’t help the JOATs get their info out either.

Welp, I learned a lot from this despite it not being a RT. Here’s my thoughts. I’m surprised that at no point did Elephas vote for me or in any way suggest that I was a wolf through all of that. It’s not a good look for them I think as if they disagree with me so much, wouldn’t that make me look wolfy to them? It might be just me, but it reeks TMI of me being a villager and it doesn’t appear like they truly believe what they’re saying.

As for Wiisp, they’ve dropped a tiny bit in my reads, but the possibility exists that they’re just a a V that agrees with Ele on what he’s saying.

… do you even believe a single word you just wrote?

I am Isolation-diving katze. I don’t care to argue with you at the moment. I have more important things to do

like figure out why the dead person died.

Hmm… so I was planning to read up on full more on Leafia and the rest of Vulgard, but honestly my motivation completely fell through after Ash flipped town. I also unfortunately have plans this night, so will only be back in around 24 hours.

However, having said that, Vulgard absolutely needs to be a wagon today. Aside from my earlier ISO (please read that too!), there are 2 posts I distinctly remember. Let me get them.

/Vote Vulgard