[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - šŸ˜¹ Pirates (Town) Win!

I will say that, after reading up on EoD after the fact, (And I apologize for not being around. Duty calls), I very much like the CFD attempt from CatLover.

I believe the idea that gorta could have been TMIā€™ing both Mole and Ash as town is a true possibility, as he refused to get on a train until pushed from many angles by many people. Basically - until he had to get on a train.

I find it interesting that gorta was not very present in the thread until he was voted, and again at the end of the day, which is usually a sign that a player is a wolf. Paying attention to when a player is present in thread is a valuable asset.

/vote gorta @Arete


I will sift through katzeā€™s Isolation now.

At the End of the Day, katzeā€™s biggest suspicions were on an_gorta (and they would have ended on that vote, if it were not for the fear of the rand.

They also had a fairly strong mafia read on CallMeIo.

The last thing I saw of much worth is some deep-wolf suspicion on vulgard.

Iā€™ll take a look at their over-all reads list and then start focusing on the day ahead of us!

[quote=ā€œkatze, post:938, topic:83078ā€]
i didnt really remember too many of their posts initially so i took a reread

i dont really feel like theyā€™re doing anything except making their own towncore

like they feel like they just exist in thread and i donā€™t feel like they add very much to it

like this is a unique thought

but thereā€™s no meat to this bone, and the conclusion is second guessing themselves

this too

why do you TR leafia for a joke that isnā€™t that uncommon on this site

the quotes kinda broke so im quarantining them here

[quote=ā€œCallMeIo, post:346, topic:83078ā€]

[quote=ā€œMoleland, post:192, topic:83078ā€]

[quote=ā€œCallMeIo, post:357, topic:83078, full:trueā€]

[quote=ā€œMoleland, post:264, topic:83078ā€]

[quote=ā€œMoleland, post:192, topic:83078ā€]

[quote=ā€œCallMeIo, post:403, topic:83078ā€]

[quote=ā€œCallMeIo, post:432, topic:83078ā€]

Yeetus

Gosh darn the quotes broke

Vote Target Voted by Votes
sulit Vulgard 1/7
Elephas Leafia 1/7
an_gorta_pratai Elephas 1/7

Oh, JOAT cover. I donā€™t know if I have seen that before, but it makes sense in this set-up.

That being said, Iā€™m sifting that I used motion detect on Elephas last night and he actually did something. Now the scum will have to figure out whether or not Iā€™m a JOAT or if Iā€™m just a VT trying to confuse the scum to hide the real JOATs. Either could be true.

Rip my town readā€¦
Donā€™t care much for NKA, easiest answer is PR hunting
Iā€™ll read their ISO again, but speculating on whether they were right or wrong doesnā€™t really yield any results we can use, since itā€™s easily manipulated. Iā€™ll probably still talk about it anyways though :upside_down_face:

Since leafia is taking me up on my idea.

I healed Vulgard

Wtf are we doingā€¦ Give me a sec to get home

Mole has moved to a townlean for me too since I donā€™t think wolves would suggest something like that.

I am pausing my Isolation-dive quickly to address this:

I do not know if it is in our best interest to do JOAT cover?

It will be quite obvious to scum who is and is not JOAT based on the results. And losing JOATs early is not good.

Perhaps we should wait a single night more to do JOAT cover, so that we have more information from JOATs, in the instance that they are spotted and die.

If we are doing JOAT cover, last night I used my tracker ability on CallMeIo, and learned that Io did not visit anybody.

Mafia are vanilla goons so they wonā€™t have any mech info to counter.

Plus if the joats have nothing they can lie too

I will also not be confirming or denying whether or not I used an ability, and whether or not abilities were used on me.

The evils wonā€™t know whoā€™s lying any more than the townies will. This post of yours I donā€™t like as why would town be against towncover? It doesnā€™t help the wolves at all while it helps the JOATs get their info out when itā€™s important for them to do so.

That is quite untrue.

Perhaps a VT claims a track or motion detect on the Mafia member who used the factional, and the results they claim were that this player did not visit, or have abilities used on them.
That makes that player confirmed VT in the eyes of Mafia.

Do you see what Iā€™m getting at?

It not only possibly confirms who a JOAT is, to Mafia, but it also narrows the pool, if it confirms VTs.

A joat can claim a fake result if they have a useless result too

Note here where Elephas somewhat engages in JOAT cover despite not liking the idea of it. Yup. Pretty sure I caught a wolf here. Or as the case may be, a dog.

I suppose you are right? But I still do not know how to feel about giving Mafia potentially more information in an attempt to cover for JOATs, at least this early.

From my perspective it seems to be helping Mafia more than us?

I will have to think on this. I may be confusing myself.
Back to katze Isolation.