[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - šŸ˜¹ Pirates (Town) Win!

Right now Moleland seems to just like making other people feel upset for his own enjoyment. I strongly object to this type of slightly mean tone and style he has. I do, however, have experience dealing with people like this. You sure do meet a range of people on the internet the longer you have been on :joy_cat:.

I think his slot will be easier solved once there are a few flips and his convictions/reactions around learning he was right and wrong. I am not going to say exactly how I would expect someone of each alignment to do so, because then it could just be faked, but I think that his slot is more or less =rand right now.

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Vote Count

Vote Target Voted by Votes
sulit katze 1/8
Leafia Elephas 1/8
katze CatLover 1/8
CallMeIo Flameo, Moleland 2/8
Wiisp Leafia, SirDerpsAlot, Moleland 3/8
Vulgard sulit 1/8
Flameo Vulgard 1/8
SirDerpsAlot Wiisp 1/8

@Arete
I am not voting Katze anymore

Anyways my break is done, Iā€™ll be back later

By people you mean leafia, right?

Waz isnā€™t obv town yet

he might just be sleeping tho, I want him to post more

Vulgard seems very over-eager. I want to see if he keeps this level of high WiM later on and what he does with it. He seems super polarizing right now, kind of a ā€œyou love him, or you hate himā€ type guy. I am honestly not sure where most of these reads come from, I see a lot of unsubstantiated posts just saying that he is a mafia or he is a town with no reasoning.

I think his eagerness, specifically to solve, is townie. This read is subject to change, it depends on how he handles his posting, but so far it seems like he is responding to and consuming as many posts as he can, and thoroughly enjoying it. From my experience, both how I personally feel and what Iā€™ve seen over my years of playing, is that wolves often do not genuinely enjoy faking solving (I sure donā€™t :smile_cat:) , and vulgard just seems realy happy with himself!

Maybe I am biased because I like to see people enjoying themselves, but the way he is going through posts and his tone while doing so gives me the vibe of ā€œtown member who is having fun towningā€.

After reading this, I noticed you have only seven posts in the thread. I have yet to read them but I hope you have indeed talked with people. If not, this opener is not a fantastic look.

Very curious how I improved for you. Would you mind quoting some posts that make you feel better about me? The last thing you said to me was a comparison to ā€œVulgard from FoL29.ā€


Reading through this thread I have noticed a lot of memeing. I will chalk it up to us only being ~3 hours into this day. But I would love if players would make themselves readable. Memes are not a lot to go off of.

These two takes donā€™t say very much. I would love a bit more detail as to why those posts ping you as townie. Which if my posts make you feel like I am ā€œtrying to do the work?ā€ And why do you not townread other players who are attempting to solve, such as Cat?

ā€¦Please stop stealing my thoughts.

This is a rather serious accusation. From my understanding, a chainsaw defense implies both players are scum, no? A scumlean doesnā€™t seem to add up with this. Please expand on this thought process.

Ah, the answer. Not sure what to glean from this, but I do appreciate that you answered it nonetheless. An answer to my question earlier in this post would be appreciated as well.

Odd vote. I find it peculiar that Wiisp votes katze here over the assumption that they were being truthful about being a wolf. Why did they not mention anything regarding sulit, if the post they took at face value stated sulit is a wolf as well? Do not like.

ā€œTownreadā€ implies this is a strong read, no? Can you tell me how certain of a playerā€™s alignment you are if you townread them? We may vary on this.

I do not know the meta of katze, but I dislike their level ofā€¦ memery. I hope they make themself more readable as the day progresses.

Interesting vote. ā€œwolfy excuse,ā€ then, in the next sentence, ā€œalmost exclusivelyā€ and ā€œif if comes from a wolf.ā€ Very flip-floppy.

I do like this explanation, but I wish there wasnā€™t a seesaw in the previous post I quoted.


My gosh you guys post a lot. This is difficult. Are all these one-liners truly necessary?


I was looking forward to interacting with you. Unfortunate.

Can you expand on this?


There are so many players I want to vote right now, it is very hard to pick one.
As I can only choose a single player to vote at a time, I have a Finger of Suspicion on Leafia, Wiisp, Vulgard. Vulgard is no longer in the thread or I would place a vote there.

/vote Moleland @Arete


I apologize for a massive post as I catch up. I would appreciate if it was read all the way through by everyone, rather than just looking for your name being mentioned.

I can attempt to break these posts up a bit more in the future.

my only reservation with vulgard at the moment is

posts

i donā€™t fully understand or follow his thought process here

it doesnā€™t feel natural?

but the rest of his posting seems fine

iā€™ll probably have a 100% read on vulgard by EoD anyway

Vote Count

Vote Target Voted by Votes
sulit katze 1/8
katze CatLover 1/8
CallMeIo Flameo 1/8
Wiisp Leafia, SirDerpsAlot, Moleland 3/8
Vulgard sulit 1/8
Flameo Vulgard 1/8
SirDerpsAlot Wiisp 1/8
Moleland Elephas 1/8

I mean, yes, I think you have treated her in a generally negative way, and saying things like you ā€œhate people who self metaā€. I think you are at least slightly full of yourself and iā€™m not afraid to say that.

That being said, I donā€™t want this to devolve into personal attacks, and judging by your tone and current playstyle your alignment should become fairly clear by day 3 after lookin at your convictions. That is all I wish to say about your slot right now.

Iā€™m going to take a deep dive of ash4funā€™s responses and general tone, I feel like I might be on to something.

Iā€™m voting twice
Secrey joat passive

well youā€™re in luck given i am considered one of the harder people to read on this website

and i am also very memey

:eyes:

the post was slightly satirical

basically vulgard doesnt like how certain players (mostly arete but i do it too) read him on the basis of

ā€œthis post was written by a villagerā€
ā€œthis post was not written by a villagerā€

but at the moment i think his posts are mostly decent, although i just finished writing a post on why i think one interaction is :eyes:

if it makes you feel better this game is probably only slightly above average post rate for this site, if even that

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You seem to have a good understanding of Vulgard. Can you please walk me through your thought process behind his other posts? You said you have no reservations, though I found a few moments of interest, as seen in my previous ā€œwall.ā€

I am surprisingly intrigued by this votecount. It shows that there is not a major consensus take, and players are actively creating their own reads rather than ā€œsheeping.ā€ This is very different from games I am used to. Please keep this up, town.

Very well. I do hope you make yourself easier to read if you are town. At this stage in the game, you get a pass I suppose.

I appreciate your post on Vulgard. You seem to have a good understanding of how he plays? So I would appreciateā€¦ check-upsā€¦ every once-in-a-while, regarding this slot. Curious how your view of him will change as this day continues, and if it will match mine.

level 0 take: a wolf probably doesnā€™t write essentially the same thing twice in one post like this

iā€™d say im fairly okay at reading him, and of the playerlist iā€™d like to think im the best at it since arete is a host

by end of day iā€™ll probably have a fairly confident read on him, i just need him to post more :wink:

Right now I cannot say I am a huge fan of ash4fun! His tone and actions both feel very much like a mafia who is trying to blend in with the crowd. It all feels soā€¦ forced!

He pops in with an opener asking to talk to people, and as soon as heā€™s confronted with it, he just freezes up!

He pops back in with reads instead, but as I said earlier, I do not think his reasoning on the two people he claimed to townread actually match up when he looks at other slots, and itā€™s more likely the reads are faked!

I confronted him on this, and in an attempt to understand his mindset, asked for his read on me. The hope was that his mindset would match up but he says that he did not notice it to the ā€œsame degreeā€ with me. It just feels like super blanket-level statements and I have serious doubts that his original reads were real at all.

This is not OMGUS. I am not mafia-reading him for not townreading me. I am mafia-reading him because he should have noticed after reading my ISO my level of proactivity. I honestly would expect him to do that but instead he stands firm on his original stance and says he didnā€™t notice it the same degree.

Itā€™s not conclusive hard evidence, but this kind of rigidity makes me think he cares more about blending in and justifying reads than actually making any!

/vote ash4fun

I would like peopleā€™s thoughts on this. I will respond to some of Elephasā€™s posts because they seem to be putting out some reads and logic that iā€™m interested in following and analysing.

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Vote Count

Vote Target Voted by Votes
sulit katze 1/8
CallMeIo Flameo 1/8
Wiisp Leafia, SirDerpsAlot, Moleland 3/8
Vulgard sulit 1/8
Flameo Vulgard 1/8
SirDerpsAlot Wiisp 1/8
Moleland Elephas 1/8
ash4fun CatLover 1/8

i agree

I wouldnā€™t say I was accusing. It was just pinging me as potential scum behaviour.

Although it was interesting to note how he backed off and voted elsewhere after I said that.