[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - 😹 Pirates (Town) Win!

[Centuries]

@Leafia

Wow. Shots have been fired already. Also, I’m an IC that’s masons with App.

Classic meme :^)

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Sulit is really hyper which makes me think V!Sulit

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@Leafia

The list that you agree with is cvalling you scum.

Unfortunately you don’t usually use those talking points from your very few previous V games so it’s a weird look

@CatLover

It’s 15 minutes into the game! Why are you so serious already? (This is not a rhetorical question, I would very much like an answer!)

Okay approach

@sulit

uh

cop 13

Soul read on Sulit she never flips scum

Don’t ask just process

@SirDerpsAlot

I’m at work but I hardclaim. JOAT

SDA as our JOAT pog?

@CatLover

So far I am a pretty big fan of sulit’s tone in thread. She seems to have this almost concealed confidence about her. On first glance, it seems like she’s just having fun in thread, but in a few of her posts, I see a subtle side come out that I think is a really good look!

I think this has a townier outlook compared to this

@Flameo

The Katze/Sulit exchange makes me think that they are not a scum team, because the exchange is just too weird to start out like that if that makes sense? I don’t see them planning that out like that. I would like more of an explanation on Sulit’s part of the townread if that was legit.

but I currently don’t think either of those are scummy posts by themselves and I mildly TL both slots

@Moleland

Leafia town this game

I belive it’s fairly presumptuous for you to read her this early when it’s been shown meta doesn’t really work and can be used in any way you want regarding her slot

@Elephas

I never actually saw an answer to my earlier question. I would appreciate one. I do not know the players here very well and do not have a good understanding of who is being sarcastic.

I think this post is fairly town motivated

throwing random reads at the wall gang

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Mole attitude towards Leafia is weird but I can see the approach and antagonization as a townie thing when trying to push a slot such as Leafia, I’m being kinda flipfloppy there because I’ve already been part of the let’s ML Leafia D1 gang as scum

Ash exists in thread and I frankly don’t have much to say, they’re fine I guess nothing pings me

@CatLover

So you are basically townreading proactivity? I am not sure why you think that specifically is town indicative, but as of right now, I have a different line of questioning I want to approach regarding you.

Yeah this slot is town

@CallMeIo

The balls were already rolling.

Call me butter

because I’m on a roll

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Kat is maybe the one player that I don’t immediatly see as town (of the ones I’ve talked about being townie before) but then it’s more of a, no thoughts than anything else

WIsp calling Kat as an open wolfer is like fiarly townie tbh

Vulgard is okay like I wouldn’t call him town this very quick but we have people who are actual experts at guessing stuff like his alignment or what he ate for breakfast so yeah

@Vulgard

Speaking of easily jumping on.

/vote Flameo
“You should be doing things right now” is a wolfy excuse for an early vote on someone. That type of vote is also almost exclusively aimed at a villager (if it comes from a wolf).

If Flameo is a wolf, Io is likely town.

Like this part

@Moleland

This comment is a ‘Duh’ moment. There’s no reason to add the ‘Even though I’m town’ part of this post. It’s not like you can be friendly neutral in this game.

/Vote callmelo

This is okay but I feel that Mole jumps at bad play rather than scum play here

Also guys please stop the overwhelming meta I know it’s hard for some slots like Leafia’s but let’s try and avoid it

@Elephas

I apologize for a massive post as I catch up. I would appreciate if it was read all the way through by everyone, rather than just looking for your name being mentioned.

I think this post is really townie to be fair like I’m not going to go in depht here because it’s too big to quote but there’s a lot of good stuff

And yeah okay to be fair I’m prone to TRing good players instead of townie players so I’d have to analyze this at one point

[sulit]

Hi conboi

[Centuries]

hi soulit

[Moleland]

Why do people think I was serious with my opening post soul reads. Ffs

[Leafia]

It’s not an overreaction at all.

[Centuries]

Should’ve done the reddit move of putting /s at the end of your post

[Moleland]

(insert Avengers meme here)

[Centuries]

BIG CHUNGUS I LOVE BIG CHUNGUS

okay anyway im gonna shut with my dumb filling the thread with nothing posts

[Wisp]

Are we reading the same posts?

[sulit]

/vote Wazza

[Wisp]

Why? I don’t even recall a wazza post?

[sulit]

exactly

[Wisp]

Lmao…

[CatLover]

I have read Ele’s posts and I’d like to say they seem to have a fairly similar approach to me? We are both new to this site and I definitely feel like they are experiencing same amount of culture clash that I am. Things like this game going very fast, people posting Way too much!!!, and the general playstyle of longer catchup posts.

As far as their alignment, I like their approach to the game, and I think it is good, but I cannot say that it is exactly town indicative. I more want to see where they go once they have gotten responses from the questions they have asked before I make a judgment on that player.

As far as their actual points, I mind-melded on their response to ash and similarly dislike katze’s level of memery. It just floods the thread and is generally anti-town and I would like it to stop.

I have no thoughts on their other points.

@Elephas

As I can only choose a single player to vote at a time, I have a Finger of Suspicion on Leafia, Wiisp, Vulgard. Vulgard is no longer in the thread or I would place a vote there.

/vote Moleland @Arete

This worries me slightly! Ele claims to have 3 people under the FoS but in the end didn’t vote one of those three. Likely just a miscommunication, but I want an explination. @Elephas, do you mafia-read Moleland and have him under the FoS, or is there a different reason for placing that vote?

Boy oh boy is all of this tiring. I will be open to questions but probably won’t make that many long walls for the night. How I am in the bottom half of posters is beyond me, I feel like I have put more effort into this game than I have in any other recently.

[sulit]

Waz doesn’t like playin scum

He has more energy as town

He has no energy here

[sulit]

I’m still waiting for him to post more but to no avail

[Leafia]

@Elephas

I suppose I should broaden my view and look at players outside of Leafia.

@Flameo

The Katze/Sulit exchange makes me think that they are not a scum team, because the exchange is just too weird to start out like that if that makes sense? I don’t see them planning that out like that. I would like more of an explanation on Sulit’s part of the townread if that was legit.

I dislike the idea of Wolf/Wolf reads this early. I think we should be focusing on indivudual levels of wolfiness, at least until we have votes, and other mechanics to work with.
I also believe “if that makes sense?” is an interesting phrase to use alongside a Wolf/Wolf read, as it implies they cannot explain it fully.

@CatLover

So far I am a pretty big fan of sulit’s tone in thread. She seems to have this almost concealed confidence about her. On first glance, it seems like she’s just having fun in thread, but in a few of her posts, I see a subtle side come out that I think is a really good look!

Reading through this large post, I find myself agreeing with CatLover. I would love if someone with knowledge of Sulit’s meta would chime in and tell us if her opener is anything of value.

@Leafia

Not sure what my take is on Sulit and Catlover is right now, but I’ll have my eye on both of them. Could they both be groupscum? Possibly. Could they both be town? Also possible.

@CatLover

What is this post actually trying to accomplish? “Could they both be groupscum? Possibly. Could they both be town? Also possible.”. What does that actually say about our alignments? How does a post like this help to advance the gamestate?

Unless this is some sort of read where you think sulit and I are aligned, I see no reason for this post to exist.

CatLover had the same thoughts as I at this moment. They beat me to the punch. I quite like this player so far as we have very similar takes on the game.

I have to return to work now, as my lunch break is over.

This is where it started. I like that you started analyzing other people as ig shows a desire to actually solve the game instead of focusing solely on me.

[Elephas]

@CatLover

This worries me slightly! Ele claims to have 3 people under the FoS but in the end didn’t vote one of those three. Likely just a miscommunication, but I want an explination. @Elephas, do you mafia-read Moleland and have him under the FoS, or is there a different reason for placing that vote?

I am unable to reply to everything currently, as I am on mobile. But I was pinged for this and would like to clear up confusion.

I use Finger of Suspicion when I am not voting that player, but suspect them. It’s my version of “pretend I am voting all of these players.” As I would if I could.

Too many to choose from, but wanted to make sure they were all known.

[sulit]

All of ash’s posts feel really like

Forged? Fake?

Idk

[ash4fun]

@CatLover

asked for his read on me.

No offence ofc, but you actually asked why I didn’t include you in the two townreads I had after a superquick read.

As I said, nothing of yours has jumped out to me. And that doesn’t mean I don’t think you’re doing anything–I just haven’t had the time yet to take a good look (or any look for that matter) at what you’ve said so far.