[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - 😹 Pirates (Town) Win!

[Elephas]

@an_gorta_pratai

If I was mafia I would have let Mole die because the mafia doesn’t care if a towny dies

Thats untrue. I am on mobile and cannot properly quote EoD, but it looked like you were attempting to avoid being on any wagons, so you don’t look bad when they flip town. You didn’t want a Mole wagon but you didnt actively do anything to stop it.

I can go into more detail on this later

@Leafia

This feels fake since if this was true, he’d be liking every post Arete made, and people don’t go around liking every post someone makes because they appreciate the person that made it. They like a post because they like that post.

You’re joking, correct?
You aren’t seriously basing a large portion of your scumread on me on the fact that I liked a post???

Yes
Allow me to openwolf by showing everyone how happy I am that ash flipped town!

This read is nonsense and you know it.
I refuse to believe that you believe this.

@Leafia

There’s more than one way of playing and you aren’t considering all the possibilities here.

I am considering the possibilities. What you are not considering is the probability. Tinfoils are how town lose games.

You are focusing on what could be but not on how likely it is.

[Leafia]

@Elephas

@Leafia

This feels fake since if this was true, he’d be liking every post Arete made, and people don’t go around liking every post someone makes because they appreciate the person that made it. They like a post because they like that post.

You’re joking, correct?
You aren’t seriously basing a large portion of your scumread on me on the fact that I liked a post???

Yes
Allow me to openwolf by showing everyone how happy I am that ash flipped town!

This read is nonesense and you know it.
I refuse to believe that you believe this.

That isn’t the entire reason and you know it. (In fact, even if you hadn’t liked that post, I’d still be scumreading you right now. It’s mostly due to how fake your posts look and how shallow your reasoning looks considering that you were the first to vote for Ash as well as the fact that you are giving the minimum possible effort in solving by not considering every possibility.

My PoE right now is this: Elephas/Vulgard/Wazza/Gorta.

Do I think all three wolves are in that group of 4? Nope. I’d be shocked if that group of 4 contained only one townie. I’m pretty sure that group of four contains two wolves though and I’m 100% certain that it contains at least one wolf.

[Leafia]

@an_gorta_pratai

If I was mafia I would have let Mole die because the mafia doesn’t care if a towny dies

If Mole happens to be townie, this reeks of TMI that Mole is town.

[Leafia]

@Elephas

I am considering the possibilities. What you are not considering is the probability . Tinfoils are how town lose games.

You are focusing on what could be but not on how likely it is.

No. Towns lose games because they don’t consider all the possibilities no matter how probable it is. Just because something is super unlikely doesn’t make it impossible and if you were considering all the possibilities, you’d list all the possibilities.

[Wisp]

[Leafia]

What the heck is this for?

[Centuries]

ok lmao @ the leafia reads

ok uhm

let me think real quick

[Centuries]

@Moleland

Vulgard - In a box marked ‘Do not bother trying to read until day 3’
Already elaborated on. Never lynch this

an_gorta_pratai - Lazy(But improving)town
I don’t think scum would allow Gorta to do so little in thread. However I do like most f their recent posts

Wazza - Unhelpfultown
Regrettably, I don’t think Wazza’s scumbuds would allow him to be such a dick to people. Annoyingly, he’s town imo

Leafia - Weaktown
Make her irrated or angry and she spills her scumminess. That’s what happened for me. I was happy playing ‘Scum Leafia’ Bingo. I was just waiting for her to self meta and say “Only town me would do X” or “If I was scum I would do.Y” and… Huh. They said it wasn’t AI? That was unexpected. Maturing scum game or their town game? Not sure tbh - but want to believe the latter. Should re eval their read on me because it is a mix of Salt and misunderstanding my opening post/s at the moment.

sulit - Townlean
I think her push on Wazza came from a genuine place, and was dripping with Town motivation.

SirDerpsALot - Nulltown
This feels like a safe, normal derps game to me. No interest in lynching this slot

Eleph - Nullleantown
Is contributing well enough so far that I don’t have any misgivings here for now.

Centuries - Null
Cent is kinda… Existing? For me. Nothing they’ve done makes me see them either way

katze - Null
There most recent posts are better, but they in general haven’t done enough to justify me reading them as anything other than null.

Flameo - Null
Their massive defence of Leafia was really odd, on top demamding me to have anything really to say when the game had barely started. I had a mild scumlean for that. But since then, I’ve been happy with their posts and they have moved back to a null.

CatLover - Weak null
Similar to Cent but… Their posts seem pretty fluffy and useless tbh. I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt for now though.

CallMeIo - Nullscum
As others mentioned, their posts are pretty underwhelming… But they seem to revel in this. I don’t like it.

ash4fun - Nullscum
Seem to be getting a lot of hate but I’m not sure I agree tbh. A scumish ping for me is how they seem to only react to the thread rather than progress anything of their own.

Wisp - Weakscum
I hate people who self meta for no reason. They, in my experience, are scum. Strike 1. Add onto this a lot of weak questions of people I pretty sure this is scum.

this is a thing from yesterday

@Arete

Vote Target	Voted by	Votes
Wiisp	Moleland	1/8
Moleland	CallMeIo, Vulgard	2/8
ash4fun	Elephas, Sulit, an_gorta_pratai, Flameo	4/8
CallMeIo	Wazza, Leafia	2/8
Catlover	SirDerpsAlot	1/8
katze	centuries	1/8
an_gorta_pratai	ash4fun, CatLover, Wiisp	3/8

vs gorta reads which are

@an_gorta_pratai

Mole is not a wolf here

@an_gorta_pratai

I haven’t suggested some to CFD to, but I have suggested a CFD

@an_gorta_pratai

/no execute for now

@an_gorta_pratai

I would much rather see you or Callmelo go today

@an_gorta_pratai

Mole and also I think this wagon is better /vote ash

posts that kinda menton ash:

@an_gorta_pratai

In terms of todays execution we always go ash. I don’t know why in the hell y’all are voting Mole, but I think Mole is town. I wouldn’t lock that in, but we don’t get rid of Mole today

he makes no effort to read ash

[CallMeIo]

As I usually see day 1’s are the Day 1 Mislynch continues.
We must be true to ourselves!
It’s rare to see a scum lynch Day 1. We need to focus!
We mustn’t allow another mislynch to happen without redemption!
I will bless Town and become a sacrifice.
I Sacrifice myself to the following:

@Leafia
@Vulgard
@SirDerpsAlot
@Wisp

If I die, Let my grace pass on to you to protect to save to fight.

No votes will go on those who I’ve listed.
Vote me instead.
I’m not confirmed Town, there’s no reason not to vote me.
Don’t let your hatred seize revenge, follow your heart.

@Elephas lephas Leave this Realm!
/Vote Elephas

[Centuries]

@sulit

inb4 kat nailed all the scum

think you have been the scumteam member who went for the kat nk tbh

[CallMeIo]

That’s why I removed them from the blessing.
The NK was odd.

[CallMeIo]

Kat was either killed by Suilt or killed by a team that was all town on Kat’s list. (Most likely option)
If you kill a player who isn’t a main priority kill and also Town reads your entire team it will allow you to go into Day 2 trying to say the NK was probably due to Katze finding someone scum. And they will probably try and use Katze’s TR on them as an excuse to not eliminate them.
This will allow scum to setup multiple mislynches.

[CallMeIo]

@Leafia

@Elephas

I am considering the possibilities. What you are not considering is the probability . Tinfoils are how town lose games.

You are focusing on what could be but not on how likely it is.

No. Towns lose games because they don’t consider all the possibilities no matter how probable it is. Just because something is super unlikely doesn’t make it impossible and if you were considering all the possibilities, you’d list all the possibilities.

I agree with Leafia here.
Pretty sure Elephas is scum here doing exactly what I just posted before.

[CallMeIo]

If you were trying to frame Vulgard and get him eliminated instead of actually killing him, GL with that.

If you were trying to frame me and get me eliminated.
Then bring it on fellas.

[sulit]

I wouldn’t be gamer enough to say that if I was scum killing kat for bad reads

[sulit]

Anywho sorry guys I’ve been pretty busy aaa

Imma try and get a solid read on everyone tonight if I don’t fall asleep first

[Leafia]

Hmmm, this makes a lot of sense I think.

[sulit]

Why is this more likely than scum killing them for correct reads though?

[Leafia]

It isn’t more likely I think. It’s equally as likely.

[CallMeIo]

@sulit

Why is this more likely than scum killing them for correct reads though?

Thought your previous post was a “I’m leaving the thread” post.