[VFM] Mountainous 15er - Town wins!

That first quote implies to me you thought I stopped scumreading them

Merc you are being that towny who just learned about mafia theory and you see someone like Luxy who is pushing a lot of people and youā€™re so excited becaue you were told that mafia like to shade people. So you see that they arenā€™t just pushing the same exact people 24/77 and you are looking past context or other factors and just relying on this simple theory of mafia push for every mislynch possible.

Problem is, you are ignoring a lot about Luxy and focusing on things that are only important in certain cases.

Our play would make sense for scum to do under the assumption that we were setting up mislynches for after the current wagon

But you arenā€™t arguing that

Youā€™re arguing that itā€™s a bus

I would actually want to know what your take on Mistā€™s vote is @Mercenary

Vote Count

Votee Voted by Votes
Luxy and Geyde Jeremy_Gonzalez, Hippolytus, Priestess and Mercenary, Mist1422 4/8
Chloe Isaac_Gonzalez 1/8
Mist1422 Chloe 1/8
JakeTheWolfie Icibalus, Kai_5 2/8
Kai_5 Luxy and Geyde, JakeTheWolfie, Katze, Italy, Nuclear_Rehab 5/8
Nuclear_Rehab Marshal 1/8
Currently Abstaining Players WazzaAzza 1

/unvote

vote accompished itā€™s purpose was to see what nuclear did under pressure. Seems fairly townie from a meta perspecitve.

this is also an honestly incredibly townie post so nuclear is moved to townreads.

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Vote Count

Votee Voted by Votes
Luxy and Geyde Jeremy_Gonzalez, Hippolytus, Priestess and Mercenary, Mist1422 4/8
Chloe Isaac_Gonzalez 1/8
Mist1422 Chloe 1/8
JakeTheWolfie Icibalus, Kai_5 2/8
Kai_5 Luxy and Geyde, JakeTheWolfie, Katze, Italy, Nuclear_Rehab 5/8
Currently Abstaining Players WazzaAzza, Marshal 2

i donā€™t want geyxy lynched but also donā€™t incredibly scumread kai.

katze is honestly someone iā€™d take a good look at especially if town.

also italy and kai are never the same team

Yeah but what about Mist

/vote kai_5

i donā€™t really scumread or townread this slot in particular but itā€™s better than letting maf make a geyxy CFD and i donā€™t see myself in the position to make a CFD to someone else

what about em?

Vote Count

Votee Voted by Votes
Luxy and Geyde Jeremy_Gonzalez, Hippolytus, Priestess and Mercenary, Mist1422 4/8
Chloe Isaac_Gonzalez 1/8
Mist1422 Chloe 1/8
JakeTheWolfie Icibalus, Kai_5 2/8
Kai_5 Luxy and Geyde, JakeTheWolfie, Katze, Italy, Nuclear_Rehab, Marshal 6/8
Currently Abstaining Players WazzaAzza 1

We have 8 hours

Time?

That vote on myself, out of nowhere

it has some reason as it was made as a counterwagon vote to kai because mist reads kai as scum.

im not a fan of where the vote was placed but they at least have clear reasoning for said vote

also geyde I fear i could pass out soon and wouldnā€™t be able to lead a CFD from sleepville

I already said 3493-49324093-49-0 billion times why I find your progression suspicious and instead of just talking about the central point right off the bat (those people werenā€™t online) you go on very angrily, talk about 6 other things and then goes to the central point.
ugh.

I would kindly preffer not to have it said to me 3 times I have not read the thread and that my entire argument is invalid without reasoning with it first.

I think town would have a more organic progression. They would find townreads alongside scumreads, multiple scumreads at a time and would push for new scumreads even if their current one is going strong.
I think this is scummy because it has a very linear progression. Besides outdated readlists and some times saying that the most LHF ever is town (Chloe was easy to read, just think if she would have that same behavior if scum instead of if the behavior is scummy by our standards), Luxy pushes for only one scumread at a time, very strongly, then totally forgets about it. Their priority to lynch is whatever is more recent and makes sound sense, instead of what is scummier.
Also Luxy very rarely interacts with other townies to make their reads. They just iron hammer something out. They are not pushing for people what they think of others, just what they think of their logical-sounding reads (it isnā€™t too hard for a read to be logical-sounding when it is on a LHF who does lot of scummy shit).
It doesnā€™t help that Luxy gets VERY defensive when I attacked him for that both times (I did it also around post 700).
I think this a scummy slot because of overly tunneling mindset.

No, Iā€™m arguing about that. The bus thing is actually a distancing instead-of-bus tinfoil and everyone is treating it as if it was the main point.

I think it was sheepy as hell.
Priestess reads you and Geyde as different people. We agree that you are scumlean (differs on intensity) whilst Geyde is null to town. She thinks Geyde is easier to read, though.

Tell me why Town does it instead of shifting the goalposts

Youā€™re not answering my question

define ā€œshifting the goalpostsā€