Like, there’s a huge difference between having TMI and being able to do reads and strong pre-flip associations to rule out packmates. Claiming Sulit/Ici can’t be W/W before ICI flips is the latter, Jake going 0-100 confidence on Ici being a wolf is basically what TMI is about.
I’ve once clearly explained what TMI is in this paragraph.
Jake suddenly voting Ici is what TMI’s about, not me fucking ruling out potential pairs.
…this is going to be another RM3 where a wolf escapes a lynch because they are clearly LHF villagers because they claimed wolf and that anyone pushing on them is obviously a wolf, right?
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…this isn’t how meta works. You keep conflating meta with trust-tells, which are highly illegal in FM.
he would be more self-aware as wolf and more relaxed as village thats the reason for claim
This in response to Kai building a PoE of Jake/Kyo/Ici/Magnus.
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Dot. Dot. Motherfucking. Dot.
So here’s where I’m at right now with Jake, and why I’m thinking he likely flips village here:
Prior to the start of the CFD onto Ici, he seemed to be basically content with the Jake lynch, but was not actively arguing for it apart from very weakly (e.g. reassuring me when I said that the fact that no one was pushing against it meant that he was likely town). Obviously it’s totally plausible that even if Jake were W, his scumbuddies would let him die, since defending him would look even more suspicious and even as town he’s fruit so low he’s practically on the ground, but in the case where Jake was scum, I’d have expected Ici to push the lynch harder to get towncred for Jake’s flip, as up until the CFD it wasn’t really looking like the lynch had a chance to change and thus bussing Jake there wouldn’t be hurting their chances of pulling off a mislynch today. Additionally, while I’m not going to clear Jake for the self-pres, it’s telling that once I switched back to pushing on Jake (the thing that was partially a reaction test of Ici), Ici basically disappeared, rather than continuing to push Jake like at all. To me this seems more logical from the perspective of a wolf trying to distance from a town lynch, as if he were a wolf self-presing onto a scumbuddy he could get more towncred by seeming to be more of a driving force behind the lynch.
I’m also not going to assume that Jake’s scum from his sudden wolfread of Ici as in SFoL 52 he did something very similar when Derps was pushing him, basically declaring that Derps was scum more-or-less for the reason that Derps was pushing him (he was in fact correct in that instance, but that’s not the point).
I’m obviously not going to townread Jake for claiming wolf, that’s dumb.
…that’s a pretty blunt way to put it.
In their town game in SFoL they were making far more complex thoughts than here, which is why he’s high in my PoE.
Also the character creation limit is going away soon so roll Denistrious East with me.