[VFM] Mountainous Arson - (12/15) - Completed - Town Wins

[Geyde]

@Luxy

Accused	Voters	Votes
Shurian	Magnus	1/8
MaximusPrime	Geyde, H_Hja, KyoDaz	3/8
Alice/Monokuma	MaximusPrime	1/8

@DatBird

Accused	Voters	Votes
Marshal	Sulit	1/8
Alice/Monokuma	MaximusPrime	1/8
KyoDaz	Arete, Kai_5	1/8
Vulgard	Marshal, Eevee	2/8
MaximusPrime	Geyde	1/8
Geyde	Vulgard, H_Hja	2/8

@DatBird

Accused	Voters	Votes
Marshal	Sulit, Geyde	2/8
Alice/Monokuma	MaximusPrime	1/8
KyoDaz	Arete, Kai_5	2/8
Vulgard	Marshal, Eevee	2/8
Geyde	Vulgard, H_Hja	2/8

@ me if i missed any.

@Marshal

Accused	Voters	Votes
Marshal	Sulit, Geyde	2/8
KyoDaz	Kai_5	1/8
Vulgard	Marshal, Eevee	2/8
Geyde	Vulgard, H_Hja	2/8
eevee	Arete	1/8

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[sulit]

Shurian disappeared but that might just be because of timezones

[Ami]

I am not pocketed by Vul and if vul is my scum partner marshal is sexy and gets all of my pelts

[Ami]

they live in singapore

[Geyde]

it’s timezones

[Marshal]

actually no, i’ve had a long week(yes this is AtE, but also fucking true) and i kinda just feel like tunneling for a little.

I’m used to a reads-less d1 and i feel like being lazy. I pwomise to do it later but i just dont feel up to it.

[Ami]

AtE
bbs

[sulit]

“I kind of just feel like tunneling for a little”

?!

[Marshal]

@Marshal

(yes this is AtE, but also fucking true)

Read nerd. It’s AtE but it;s also the truth. i just don’t feel like it.

[Marshal]

yes, it’s way easier to explain a SR on someone than to evaulate a whole new amount of players.

[Ami]

as if AtE negates it happening

[eevee]

/vote Kai

[JakeTheWolfie]

Marshal

@Marshal

Hola nerds, I’m here right now.
Got my CC last night but fell asleep before gamestart.

I won’t be as active for like a day or two because my theater production is being put on tommorow.

However I’ve been looking at some things and would like to remind people that eevee memes to a fault(and excessively) as town.

But I haven’t read enough to make a full read

First D1 post. Most interesting part is the slight townlean on eevee.

@Marshal

Also if eevee is doing all of this memeing and is scum, I don’t see scumbuds in the thread. That seems like something scumchat would tell eevee to stop

Slight scumread on people on non-active people?

@Marshal

Oh, you think it’s scummy I won’t vote you?

/vote vulgard

I’ll elaborate later but I do not like you here.

Their first vote, quite early, as well.

@Marshal

I’ve been skimming and agree with eevee here.

Vulgard is acting like his lotrfm scum game.
And has said many things that I did as scum when pushed hard in SFoL 53.

“Everyone on my wagon is scum”
“Hmm things you are saying are pretty convenient”

Scumreading Vulgard here. I haven’t read up on LotrFM, so I can’t confirm.

@Marshal

He is going full argumentative and contradictory.

Widely scumread d1, too.

And someone hard defends him. But In this case it is kai and not me

Widely scumread =/= scum. Unless you’re talking about LotrFM.

This is the Vulgard ISO

@Marshal

vul w
discuss

How clever to come in with an instant read.

Immediately very defensive

This doesn’t seem as defensive as you led me to believe.

@Marshal

I’m afraid Ici has rolled scum this game and this:

Icibalus:

The problem is that you don’t actually have any proof that I’m not, say, a villager trying to play the game who didn’t bother meming for once.

Is so LAMIST to me it hurts. Maybe I have a biased perspective here but he does his best to shut down the read extremely early while trying to sell himself as ‘serious town.’

How is this trying to shut doewn the read?

Well, Ici basically said “You can’t prove I’m town trying not to meme”

@Marshal

You almost seem to know this, of course, which is why you blatantly point out your biased perspective.

I blatantly point out my biased perspective because after my few last games I’m absolutely paranoid of getting confbiased by no one other than myself.

admitting to being biased after a few posts hmm… This feels like scum being “oh im honest about my bias so please don’t use that as a point”

It could also be town warning us not to take their reads as Gospel.

@Marshal

This pings me as town and not as scum. He’s joking, okay. He’s evidently joking and it doesn’t feel fake to me. I don’t know, maybe I’m stupid.

hedge

It’s at worst a nullread, and at best a townlean.

@Marshal

I like his tone.

MaximusPrime:

@Vulgard Why? This is such a weak read that scum can just give as an excuse to TR someone.

This is a legitimate question.

@Marshal

Max probably town. Probably because the read might flip.

Even more hedgey and playing both sides. God this whole ISO reeked of hedge and weak reads. This felt like scum wanting to let people know they TR someone, but not having actual reasons for it.

I agree with Marshal here.

This is Vulgard's Kyo ISO

@Marshal

“REEEE KYO IS TALKING ABOUT MECHANICS AND STRATEGY HE MUST BE SCUM TRYING TO LOOK PRODUCTIVE!!!”
I actually don’t think this is strongly AI but hey. Someone had to say it.

Not AI or a reason.

This seems like random garbage from Vulgard.

@Marshal

How could you say something so controversial, yet so brave?
On a serious note I disagree but that doesn’t mean this is scummy, I guess.

MEGA HEDGE MEGA HEDGE

This does feel like hedging.

@Marshal

So now he thinks pushing Max is worthless? I don’t see why, other than the fact people were questioning him because of it and scumreading him.
That’s not a great look ngl. Dropping your read because people scumread you for it. Unless there’s a whole different reason I missed but all I see Kyo talk about in his ISO is explaining his read on Max, so I think that read should’ve been the cause.

First real content. Stll gives the “i could be wrong but…” thing, but at least makes a read .

I can’t tell what Marshal means by “i could be wrong but…”

@Marshal

Proof that he townreads Max. So Kyo engaged with Max by scumreading him, then got questioned by Geyde and Hja and spent a lot of time explaining himself, then changed his read on Max.
I’m struggling to understand whether he did that because he was being scumread for it or because he genuinely re-read Max’s posts and started thinking he was actually town. Either could be the case at this point.

I need more posts from Kyo I think. Right now he’s pinged me both ways.

A godawful ending to a godawful ISO. We get IIOA, hedge, and then inconclusivity.

This is a reasonable conclusion.

@Marshal

Marshal has found a scumtell. He is just hedging every read here and saying he will “reread” before coming to a conclusion so that he won’t actually, you know, have to give real reads

Marshal has convinced me that Vulgard is Scum and that they’re town.

[sulit]

[Geyde]

Maximus wagon, despite being a completely valid wagon that scum would have reason to support, disintegrates in its entirety by VC 3
Despite this, people have continually suggested Maximus as possible scum in thread

I feel like this complete avoidance of the slot is because of scum
A Maximus lynch is easy, alongside incriminating Kyo should they flip town

I think one scum in Maxi/Kyo guaranteed pretty confidently

/unvote

[sulit]

Can you elaborate on this reasoning more

[JakeTheWolfie]

If you read the Iso, I do.

[eevee]

Come join me on Kai wagon.

[sulit]

Not really you don’t

[sulit]

It seems appealing but it’s nice and cozy here on marshal