[VFM] Purgatory III: The Reckoning! Finale. Demons Win!

[Yawn]

@Wazza

I’m going to be sent to heaven

lol

[Yawn]

I’m town leaning Darth now, if they show themselves more I’d be down to vote them.

[Wazza]

@Yawn

NO WAY IS WAZ BEING VOTED TODAY

I’m mainly voting myself because otherwise I’m going to have to replace out by the end of this phase.

[Wazza]

@Anagram

a) He goes from Zone being null to hard pushing and casing him EOD, saying stuff like he’s really sure Zone is scum but never tries super hard to get votes on him.

I had already stated that Zone was a lean towards the Scum category so this is just a plain lie.

@Anagram

b) He shades Raven a ton and says they’re his top scumread, but later in the thread Raven just… slowly transitions to a townread for “vibes?” He constantly shades Raven, then townreads Raven and its weird AF.

I never once suspected Raven? That is literally just a pure lie so what the fuck.

@Anagram

c) His read on us is even more ??? The first real interaction with us he says our post pinged him, but suddenly we’re like second to top on his readlist and his top town, and there’s like, no progression here whatsoever.

First of all, it’s in alphabetical order. Second of all, yeah you are my top town. Third of all, I hadn’t posted much but I had been lurking, meaning just because I don’t talk about my reads and I put someone as top town (Which someone has to take anyway) doesn’t mean I have a lack of scumread.

@Anagram

d) They hard scumread Yawn but never push them at EOD. They harp about Zone being scum but never once do they bring up Yawn until they’re like “oh, Yawn is a scumread but I don’t think I can lynch them today.”

I mean, it was pretty obvious I can’t have been able to execute Yawn at all, the only chance I had and the chance I was going to take but didn’t really bother was when you started talking about how Yawn was acting weird.

@Anagram

e) Mole is the most weird for me, mostly because this read EOD is all over the place. He starts by scumreading and voting Mole, being confident Mole is town via meta, and pushes Zone instead. He says Mole probably won’t be lynched. Then, he suddenly flips his read, says he’s down for thw wagon, stops pushing Zone, and hops on Mole.

Hey, may I ask, did you actually read anything? Most of this shit is pure lies or just plain wrong. I never once stated that Mole was Town, I said:

@Wazza

I’m basing my read on Mole as Meta right now. I still hold him in the scum-department because fuck meta but I feel like I want Zone dead more.

Then Darth pointed out to me about Meta and that made me suspect Mole more, but it wasn’t enough to really convince me.

@Anagram

f) His progression on wanting/not wanting to go to Heaven is also weird. His mindset at EOD is I want to keep playing, I don’t want to go to heaven, then now it’s send me to heaven! Vote me! He doesn’t bring up any other options. It’s understandable he’s demotivated from the last day, but this flip is super weird, especially considering scum really want to go to heaven.

I don’t think I can state this but otherwise I’m going to have to replace out (I probably should replace out now but I’d rather not for the time being and stay in this for as long as I can).

@Anagram

This progression I shared above is so odd, especially Raven/Yawn/Us.

How the actual fuck is it odd? I showed clear progression as the day progressed, maybe not on you but that’s because my read on you literally never changed. You’re the one who caused the CFD to Mole.

@Anagram

Wazza tries to start a wagon on Zone, but it does not gain traction.

He can’t reasonably vote us, after placing us at highest townread level.

Mole CFD starts, and Wazza sees this as another way to shift off of Raven. Both Wazza and Raven vote Mole.

Wouldn’t vote you anyway, not to mention I voted Mole because I WAS TOLD TO. I literally didn’t do shit for that wagon.

End of Player 2 for now.

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@Anagram

Wazza said he would not be voting during the first hell phase, which is not AI in itself. However, when prompted to vote, as I said “I will be rather upset if my slot dies today because someone I consider town didn’t vote, but I can’t really force you to do anything” he voted Moleland, who had no votes at the time.

Well Mole died anyway now did he and you survived anyway now didn’t you.

I’m not going to just ‘vote to save my top townread’ as that’s how people fucking lose games, I’m going to vote my top scumread at the time and you wouldn’t stop me on that. If it gets attracting, then yippee, I might catch a scum by the end of it and people might think I’m Town.

@Anagram

If he was voting in an attempt to save a townread of his, I’d think he would either take a look at darth/Raven (the other two wagons at the time), or try to gather more people onto the Moleland wagon. His vote placement didn’t really line up with his statement of “you’re lucky I consider you a top town and would prefer you not to die.”

Technically it did as people were pointed towards Mole like I had intended. Not to mention why do you think I only voted to save you. That would be stupid as fuck, I’m obviously going to go for what I believe instead.

@Anagram

However… nothing has happened since Mole flipped, so that obviously isn’t the case.

I was sleeping like probably most people.

@Anagram

Someone in your PoE convinced you that someone else in your PoE is town.
Uhhh
Alright.
Why does this feel like TMI on gorta.

Gorta literally pointed out how Mole’s meta wasn’t the same as his normal scum meta while trying to push on him which slipped it towards me.

@Anagram

Also why does Wazza go from someone who hates d1 votes and says he won’t be voting, to someone who is voting Mole, then Zone, then Mole. It’s a big change in playstyle at the snap of a finger.

Because of you, you absolutely buffoon.

[Zone_Q11]

…this is boring.
My reads have barely changed at all.
Still townreading Anagram for effort.
Still scumreading Yawn for OMGUS.
Still don’t care WTF Wazza is as long as I can GTFO ASAP.

If we can’t get Wazza to heaven, can we then send me since Anagram, Raven, darth and Mole all townread me?

[Zone_Q11]

@Moleland

I’m going to sleep now. You should not lynch me, but I understand why you probably will. Thread wasn’t active when I had time free yesterday, knackered after an awful day today.

Never send Gorta, raven, darth or Trival to heaven

Zone and wazza are safe to go to heaven.

NGL, kinda wish I was scum now so I can brag about using the same tactics as MU Practice Game in scumchat.

I hope that scumchat have more activity and memes than this thread.

[Zone_Q11]

@Yawn

And ppl still rando wanting Waz after Mole flips town is ???

Hello. I am “ppl”. I want Wazza dead (and go to heaven) because he was townread by Mole for whatever reasons, and because I want to GFTO this game ASAP, even if it means that I have to yeet Wazza to heaven and yeet myself to hell thereafter.

Because this game is a damn graveyard were it not for Anagram.

[clonedcheese]

PSA from the host:

Do not, under ANY circumstance, discuss or threaten replacement.

Thanks

[Trivial]

Nerds

[Wazza]

I thought as much, just being honest though.

[Anagram]

@Wazza

I had already stated that Zone was a lean towards the Scum category so this is just a plain lie.

I didn’t see this from looking through your ISO for posts from Zone, but I can look again for it or maybe you can point it out for me?

@Wazza

I never once suspected Raven? That is literally just a pure lie so what the fuck.

You did! I quoted it above my reasoning here, it’s about the first couple posts in the Raven tab.

@Wazza

First of all, it’s in alphabetical order. Second of all, yeah you are my top town. Third of all, I hadn’t posted much but I had been lurking, meaning just because I don’t talk about my reads and I put someone as top town (Which someone has to take anyway) doesn’t mean I have a lack of scumread.

Alphabetical order? In tabs, right? But you mention us being top town later in your ISO.

So… even if you put someone at town, you could still scumread them? I don’t get it.

@Wazza

I mean, it was pretty obvious I can’t have been able to execute Yawn at all, the only chance I had and the chance I was going to take but didn’t really bother was when you started talking about how Yawn was acting weird.

I mean, you barely pushed them after mentioning they were your highest scumread. The only other person if I remember correctly who read Yawn at the time was us.

@Wazza

Hey, may I ask, did you actually read anything? Most of this shit is pure lies or just plain wrong. I never once stated that Mole was Town, I said:

I mean, I did… You can check all the stuff I quoted below. All the stuff I’ve typed is directly from looking at that, and all of the stuff I quoted is your posts. You said gorta had convinced you Mole was actually town, did a pretty big meta case on it. It can be assumed you townread them at a point?

@Wazza

How the actual fuck is it odd? I showed clear progression as the day progressed, maybe not on you but that’s because my read on you literally never changed. You’re the one who caused the CFD to Mole.

All of these I’ve already explained. Your reluctance to actually push Yawn was weird, your progression on Raven is odd, going from thinking they are scum in the beginning of the day to just townreading them off of vibes. I didn’t see any actually thought process connecting those two. And while you were arguing with Yawn you sussed us and said our posts pinged you, and I didn’t really see much reason as to why we were your top town.

@Wazza

Wouldn’t vote you anyway, not to mention I voted Mole because I WAS TOLD TO. I literally didn’t do shit for that wagon.

Where did you vote him because someone told you to? I just see this:

@Wazza

Honestly I might just vote Mole here, I still suspect him and his sudden ‘yo you’re town, go to heaven bro’ makes me suspect him more but then it might just be coming from Town who thinks I’m town and agh.

Sorry it took me a while to respond! I might have slept in!

~ Player 2

[Anagram]

I’ll let Player 1 respond to your second part, they should be around soon!

~ Player 2

[Anagram]

I’m going to try and get through everyone’s ISOs in the next couple hours!

We really need some organization, me and P1 feel like everyone is just doing their own thing!

It’d be great if everyone could give me their top two townreads! Mine are currently Yawn and Trivial, however I’m hoping to get a more solid read on everyone while I’m ISOing!

~ Player 2

[an_gorta_pratai]

I want to make a full read list later, which shouldn’t be too bad

[Wazza]

@Anagram

I didn’t see this from looking through your ISO for posts from Zone, but I can look again for it or maybe you can point it out for me?

Here you go:

@Wazza

Sure. Going to also throw Zone in here as he’s borderline scumread for me:

@Anagram

You did! I quoted it above my reasoning here, it’s about the first couple posts in the Raven tab.

???

@Anagram

Alphabetical order? In tabs, right? But you mention us being top town later in your ISO.

So… even if you put someone at town, you could still scumread them? I don’t get it.

What? I order it by Category - Town/Null/Scum and then from there I put players via alphabetical orders.

@Anagram

I mean, you barely pushed them after mentioning they were your highest scumread. The only other person if I remember correctly who read Yawn at the time was us.

I stated Mole was my highest scumread, not Yawn. You can see this if you ISO me (Granted I stated it after Mole was actually dead, Yawn was at the bottom because it’s in alphabetical order)

@Anagram

All of these I’ve already explained. Your reluctance to actually push Yawn was weird

I wasn’t reluctant, I just wasn’t bothering, I saw an opportunity to push Yawn after you two had decided that they were acting suspiciously.

@Anagram

your progression on Raven is odd, going from thinking they are scum in the beginning of the day to just townreading them off of vibes.

I still don’t remember when I called Raven scummy, all I remember is saying that they had a bad readslist.

@Anagram

I didn’t see any actually thought process connecting those two. And while you were arguing with Yawn you sussed us and said our posts pinged you,

When did I sus you? Can you actually provide quotes for this shit instead of just pulling things out of your ass? I don’t remember these at all.

@Anagram

Where did you vote him because someone told you to?

@darth_tabor

why are you still on Zone here? Your only refute for moving your vote to Mole earlier was that it wouldn’t get traction after I refuted your meta read.

@Zone_Q11

–can we get a hammer, now that it is 02.30 AM?

Here.

[Anagram]

I quoted everything you’re confused about in the spoilers!

~ Player 2

[Wazza]

Spoilers? Where?

[Anagram]

@Anagram

.

Below this.

~ Player 2

[Wazza]

@Anagram

Zone

There isn’t any weird progression here, suspected him since the start of the day.

@Anagram

Raven

Holy shit I have made a big fucking mistake.

I got Raven mixed up with Trivial some how and I don’t even know how, I recall Trivial making those posts when I was at the end of the day which is why I kept Raven in a Neutral section and even said all I noticed from them was really just townie vibes.

@Anagram

Anagram

One bad post from you that I point out is not enough to convince me you’re scum, nor is one good post enough to convince me.

@Anagram

Yawn

Is there any weird progression on this?

@Anagram

Mole

Nothing really odd here, all of this just seems like steady progression in a line.

[Wazza]

I thought you were quoting other players when I saw that, that’s my b.