[VFM] Purgatory III: The Reckoning! Finale. Demons Win!

I get what you mean, but what I remember is more about liking to fool people, not necessarily about meta, and I think him self voting when he thinks he could die points to him not trying a con?

I accept the possibility that you know zone’s meta better than I, but being blatant -EV and at least appearing to not care about fooling people together points to a villager.

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Voted Voters Votes
Wazza Zone 1/5
Zone Raven 1/5

little less than 7 hours remain for this phase

thread hasnt really picked up

I dont think ill be able to be back this phase besides maybe in the next hour or so

Oh I definitely have pride in fooling town whenever I am scum. It comes from the fact that I wasn’t able to hide my town meta a few months ago, but then I got tired of shouting and using caps lock after I intentionally upped my scum meta by matching it with my town meta.

Aye. Not much has happened, and not much will happen, it seems. Watch as someone will say: “This is perfect. Scum can hold monopoly since all towns are slanking.”

–actually, which bloke scumread Anagram for that exact reason? I forgot.

I actually sort of find Anagram scummy based on not things they did.

When Anagram called for a CFD to Mole, for some reason people on their wagon joined in, which striked me as very odd, and then when I started getting the blame for hopping on it when I was told to, it just struck me as even more odd.

So do you want them gone in the next phase then?

Because if so, then you can stay in the purgatory as I leave to heaven.

1 here :wave:
Catching up.

Okay so here’s the deal.
You don’t believe this.
You’re voting someone at a pivotal moment in the game because you’re sheeping the reads of a dead villager. Said dead villager was not nightkilled. He wasn’t killed because his reads were correct.
In fact, he was killed for almost the opposite reason. His reads had very little substance and his progression was extremely flimsy.
Why would you ever sheep those reads.
Make your own.

I also really dislike this post. I’m trying to get into the head of v!Wazza for a second here.
I am v!Wazza. People want to vote me out during Heaven phase. Hell yes! We aren’t helping the Demons progress their wincondition.
Why would I write this? There is no conclusion. I don’t say it makes Zone wolfy, I just say “I don’t like [x]” and “you’ll get a bunch of town cred.” If I’m going to die today, I want to make my thoughts as clear as possible for people to read from the pov of a flipped townie.
Back to Anagram pov.
We are at 8 players alive. 5 villagers and 3 wolves.
Wolves need to get 2 wolves to heaven. The more villagers they send to heaven, the smaller the wolf PoE becomes, and the more villagers there are in Heaven to help make decisions on Judgement Day. Why would wolves not attempt to get a wolf to heaven today.
A large portion of the game is AFK anyways, so wolves can push whatever narrative they want, and get whoever they want killed.

I think this post is wolfy, but I want you to explain this thought to me in more detail, as my partner doesn’t fully agree with me. I am sitting outside the entrance of a tunnel and I don’t like this feeling.

It indeed isn’t enough. All you have done today is say that you or Wazza should be sent to heaven because Mole saw you as town or some crap. You aren’t making yourself look like a villager if you are one. Maybe actually contribute something other than your deathwish and we will reconsider.

Okay so real quick: Fuck meta.
But this is complete doodoo.
You do not believe this, and if you somehow do, and you are a villager, you are pretty much an adopted wolf, since you are admitting to not playing the game, and solely sheeping the reads of a dead villager.
And I don’t live under a rock. You aren’t a new player by any means. You know this is a terrible reason to townread someone.
You were a Champs representative for Novel Updates. Though this says nothing about your playstyle, it shows that you have enough experience to realize that this is not helpful to town. So if you are town, step up.
Play the game your signed up for, and stop expecting people to townread you and vote you for terrible reasons.

This is a villager.

Okay.
This reasoning is absolutely terrible.
We are past d1, we have a flip, we have votes, and we have a lot of content to work with, and your top townmember is top town for you based on meta and… gut?

Let me start with post 1 & 2. “I’d expect him to not actively trying to just get out as a wolf” - this is literally the wincondition of the Demons.

Why would wolves not want to get sent to Heaven today. The reasoning is so backwards.
Everyone wants to get sent to heaven (unless they’re us, because town will implode if we die), that in itself is NAI. The way they go about it though? That is AI.

Now post 3 & 4
Post 3 is dumb. Zone is not actually trying to die in Hell. It goes against his wincondition as either alignment. It’s quite clear that they want to get sent to Heaven, and their talk about being sent to Hell could very very easily be scum WIFOM.
This is flimsy reasoning to townread someone.

Post 4 goes against your argument. “this guy actually likes […] not self voting at EoHell when votes pile on himself.”
Zone wasn’t going to die there. Like, probably ever. The wagon on him was weak, and dissipated quickly. And once again, selfvoting in itself is NAI. Very easily scum WIFOM.
And the other part of post 4: “this guy actually likes rolling wolf and fooling people.” This part is what goes against your argument. Is it not very very possible that Zone could be a wolf who wants to get sent to heaven today… thus… fooling people? It not only helps his wincondition, but it also gives him the satisfaction of fooling town who voted him.

This is a horrible reason to vote someone during the most important phase of the game, and you know it. This is so damn wolfy.

We are voting darth today, unless darth themself can convince me someone else is a better choice.
I have extremely high confidence in darth being a villager. Not only that, but if it comes to Judgement Day, I trust their (heh) judgement.
If we live in a world where darth is a wolf, we pretty much have a guaranteed wolf in Raven, as seen in this post:

/vote darth @clonedcheese

~ Player 1

I have an immediate PoE of Raven, Zone, Wazza, gorta.
Trivial is dropping for me because of inactivity, and because a large portion of our townread on them was based on d1 gut feelings.
I believe Yawn and darth are villagers.

~ Player 1

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Voted Voters Votes
Wazza Zone 1/5
Zone Raven 1/5
darth_tabor Anagram 1/5

little less than 5 hours remain for this phase

And who are you to declare what I do and don’t believe in? Your slot might be the one who talks the most, but it doesn’t mean that you have the power to stuff your agenda into my mouth.

Why would now be a pivotal moment? In the worst case scenario where we send a demon off to heaven, the game will still continue anyway.

The substance maybe very little, but I choose to believe those reads nonetheless.

I already made my own reads, and I just want someone to move over to heaven as soon as possible so we can move on to the next phase.

I thought that everyone have somehow already agreed on sending Wazza to heaven, but apparently that wasn’t the case, which is rather disappointing since I thought that y’all would’ve already made your reads in the 200 posts that I skipped.

I don’t need to make myself look villager for two reasons:

  1. Only scum would focus on themselves rather than anyone else.
  2. Everyone else other than you is a ******* slanker. I literally don’t need to make myself towny when everyone else is no different than a slanking scum.

*****, get your facts straight. That “some crap” is my contribution, and if you don’t like it, then send me down to hell!

  1. You are a damn hypocrite.
  2. I was not chosen. I volunteered because nobody else wanted to go. Your argument of me being experienced… I deny it.
  3. I don’t need to step up; EVERYONE needs to step up, and I don’t see… anyone. I just see you talking, and everyone else is just… not talking.

…okay. I guess I am being adopted right now.

@Anagram / @Raven
@Yawn
@darth_tabor

I will aid you by sending darth to heaven, and by sending Wazza to hell.

*****, try me. I got blacklisted for gamethrowing in SFoL63. Let’s see if we can worsen my situation, shall we?

Then let us send me to hell, shall we?
Everyone, with mutual consent from both town and scum, will send me to hell, all in order to prove my ******* point that I AM ALWAYS CORRECT.

Alright. Let’s play your game.

/vote darth_tabor
@clonedcheese

@everyone, vote darth_tabor.

They are 100% town, and we will 100% not misexe in Hell Phase 2, thereby causing a Judgement Day where all our fate depends on darth_tabor.

This is fine. EVERYTHING IS FINE.

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Voted Voters Votes
Zone Raven 1/5
darth_tabor Anagram, Zone 2/5

So you don’t say this earlier when you were in the thread but immediately after I make a post on why I think it’s possible you’re scum, you decide to talk about this now? Not a good luck on you, I’ll be honest.

However, what you don’t realise is that why would I say it if I’m wolf? What you’re saying here is that no matter my alignment, I shouldn’t be saying this post, instead you decide to use it as a point on why I’m wolfy.

@Wazza, I changed my mind. You are scum.
@Anagram, you are totally town.
@Raven …I don’t know what you are, but Anagram scumreads you, so you must be scum.
@an_gorta_pratai, you are super active today! #toptown #activityisNAI
@darth_tabor, you tagged me to ISO Mole before he died. 100% town.
@Trivial, you are so cool that you only need to say “Nerds” in the past 43 hours. No doubt that this slot is town.
@Yawn, you were totally right. I am a scummy scum scum, and you should totally send me to hell within 5 hours.
@Zone_Q11, you are a piece of garbage that should just die and never come back again. Clearly you are not human. No, you are just

that should be sent to hell for your sole existence alone.

Epic, did I ask? No.

I lost full respect for you already and not to mention this game I just find you scummy as hell. Thus, I won’t be voting Darth because of how insistent you are.

Funny that you say that, even though I insisted on either you or me being sent to heaven before Anagram P1 showed up.

But this is fine. You are clearly scum. Anagram said so. Mole’s words are trash. Everyone will listen to Anagram.

After all: Nobody can talk back to them if they don’t talk at all, right?

Yeah so I got busy

My partner dosent really have time so rip my bad guys