[VFM] SFoL -1: Hall of the Incendiary - Night 6 - Cult wins!

[Aelin]

@Aelin

That being said
/vote Mist
PL for self-vote and AtE

@Aelin

PL for self-vote and AtE
its entirely a meme but don’t worry about that part

Have been at work for the past six hours, sorry I couldn’t stop this waste of time sooner.

/unvote Mist @Mistyx @Whysper

[Aelin]

Kinda odd that you both looked at that and neither of you saw me literally say it was a meme

[Arete]

Vote Count (ping me for any errors)

Vote Target	Voted By	Votes
Mistyx	GGhana	1/8
GGhana	Leafia, Shrek_Gurl_12, demoknighttf2	3/8
Leafia	Illwei, PKR	2/8
Shrek_Gurl_12	Benjamin_Shapiro	1/8
Light	Mistyx	1/8
Whysper	SirDerpsAlot	1/8

[Whysper]

@Aelin

Kinda odd that you both looked at that and neither of you saw me literally say it was a meme

Ahhh, I either completely missed that later post where you said it was a meme, or I glanced at it and didn’t realize it was in reference to your earlier vote. The fact that it was crossed out makes it even more likely I didn’t really see it especially since it looked like a fluff post.

So anyway, who is your highest SR now? Is it GGhana still, or someone else?

[Aelin]

Yes, it’s still GGhana. But I am starting to see more and more of a possibility that it’s just because he’s a ToL idiot (offense intended). I’m doing something at the moment, but I’m probably going to go over yesterday’s EoD and see what was going on and reorient myself.

[Mistyx]

wolfy pings with the vote

[Mistyx]

I’ll explain why later on I’m eating rn

[Aelin]

Uh… okay? Have fun with that ig

[Mistyx]

why is someone not in the game liking my posts

[Mistyx]

@ChopChop @thepigeonnyc
y’all are not funny

[Whysper]

I was just analyzing the post counts I’ve been taking at certain points. I see a noticeable drop in activity for Demo. He was the top poster as of post #803. Then at post #1580, his increase was only 47 compared to higher increases (e.g. 116, 108, 83) from those around his same position. Then at post #2030, an even bigger drop in activity (only 11 compared to 67, 55, 45 for those around his position). I think this drop in activity/WIM is a wolfish sign.

[Whysper]

Are you there, Light? I thought I saw you typing for awhile.

[Whysper]

I hope I didn’t interrupt you from posting something.

[Aelin]

Sumimasen! I was watching My Hero Academia, and got carried away… Nevertheless, I’m done now.

@Arete

Vote Count

Vote Target	Voted by	Votes
GGhana	demoknight	1/8
Leafia	PKR, ATNoName, Illwei	3/8
Mistyx	sulit, Benjamin_Shapiro, Gorta, GGhana	4/8
PKR	Shrek_Gurl_12	1/8
Illwei	ScaledSlinky	1/8
Gorta	SirDerpsAlot, Mistyx, Leafia, Whysper, Light	5/8

Looking for each players reasoning behind their votes on their respective wagons…

demoknight - voting GGhana because thinks their pushes are in bad faith and their reads are unsubstantiated

@demoknighttf2

too many of your arguements involve many coulds
i don’t think this is lookin too good for you buddy

@demoknighttf2

oh and also
progression 100
you didn’t have enough time to read my ISO precisely
so i don’t know where this is coming from

@demoknighttf2

you see your arguements are flimsy so you look like you’re shading other people

PokemonKidRyan - voting Leafia because... ??? Voted first around post 17 as a... joke? Unsure.

@PokemonKidRyan

/Vote Leafia

Found Leaf as sus N0

ATNoName - voting Leafia because... they aren't very gamer I guess

@ATNoName

Right now I’m thinking of Leafia since they haven’t done anything unique. But I’m too lazy to see who voted GGhana

Illwei - voting Leafia to save Mist?

@Illwei

I don’t know what the case is against Leafia still. Don’t understand it.

@Illwei

I think we should kill Leafia because there isn’t a possible way for them to confirm themselves?

@Illwei

since when were you SR misty? did i miss it?

/vote Leafia

Sulit - Voting Mist because they think tone is weird and other reasons that I'm too lazy to actually go through at 3:26 AM

Funny lil wallpost ayaya

@sulit

@Mistyx

slinky, do you have any reads?

most of your posts are commenting on others’ content rather than making your own

@Mistyx

going off of what?

@Mistyx

you seem reasonable, i’d like to see a bit more from you

@Mistyx

light wagon dissolving is strange

i’m tired i’ll be around more later

@Mistyx

instinctively "ew"ing this post

@Mistyx

I agree with your leafia read

But I also think it’s a bad read because I’m pretty sure you confbiased it off of an RVS vote

All of the above give me vibes of I should post something and be towny rather than actually being town

Mist doesn’t really follow up on any of these with an attempt

To read anyone

@Mistyx

it’s not rock solid or anything but there’s a bit more to it than “gorta lurking gorta wolf”

The only thing I think is towny is probably this

Benjamin_Shapiro - Voting Mist because... they didn't want to vote Leafia? Really just sheeped sulit mostly

@Benjamin_Shapiro

@sulit

All of the above give me vibes of I should post something and be towny rather than actually being town

I agree with few on this

@sulit

Mists view seems p narrow and focused on gorta

that is fair

but I would want mist to defend themselves here

@Benjamin_Shapiro

not feeling leafy now that leafy is here

/vote mist

gorta - Voting Mist because...

not gonna waste my time on this since gorta is dead and it’s 3:31 AM lmfao how much of a loser do you think i am

GGhana - Voting Mist because...? I don't really know they have like no progression on Mist

@GGhana

/vote Misty @Arete

One of misty or leafia needs to die today and I will die on this hill I swear

Shrek_Gurl_12 - Voting PKR because they think that the 'townslip' is fake, uh... readlist is bad?

@Shrek_Gurl_12

it looks like a fake townslip because everyone had been saying that it was a mountainous game for a while before this and I don’t believe PokemanKidRyan did not see this.

@PokemonKidRyan

10:
9:
8: Sulit, Whysper
7: Mist, Light, ATNoName
6: SDA, GGhana, Gorta, Benjamin
5: Demoknighttf2
4: Illwei
3: Leafia, Shrek, Scaled
2:
1: Mist, jk

@Shrek_Gurl_12

/vote PokemanKedRyon

Important to me

@Shrek_Gurl_12

Entire gorta wagon was garbage, another scum clearly had a lot of votes at EoD cuz I’m p sure scum piled on Gorta. Gorta was just chilling in thread I don’t understand how ppl justified him being main wagon lol.

They weren’t around for EoD, which kinda makes this post useless, otherwise it would be pretty >_>

Out of curiosity, @Shrek_Gurl_12, do you happen to have a role that will single-handedly win the game for town if you’re alive D4 or D5? :^)

ScaledSlinky - Voting Illwei because they don't like top wagons, and Illwei has been very hedgey

Lol!wallpost

@ScaledSlinky

I have had the chance to go over and re-ISO the top three wagons, and here are my thoughts.

GGhana : After reading this, I’ve come to the conclusion that they’re likely just a villager here. GGhana is extremely aggressive and displays such a strong desire to solve and such a high WIM that I think is quite unlikely to come from a new wolf. I believe wolf!GGhana would not be able to constantly post and push their reads while explaining them thoroughly like they are here. They do some things I dislike sure, such as their intense tunneling, but they don’t display any of the frozenness I’d expect.
I don’t want this to die today.

Leafia : Besides their idiotic “reason” to townread me, I still don’t understand why this is a wagon? As far as I can tell, this is mainly meta-based and no one has made an attempt to give me examples of the supposed scum-meta their displaying here when I’ve asked. Which I still would like, by the way. @PokemonKidRyan @Benjamin_Shapiro @ATNoName Could any of you condense the Leafia case for me and give me further reasoning behind “meta” if there is any? Pending carbon-copy displays of their scum-meta here, I don’t want to vote this either.

Mistyx : This was a slot I had initially townread pre-ISOing them again. Something I noticed now though, is that they’re tied for the second-most wagon and could theoretically be the lynch for today: and they’re paying this little attention to EOD. I’m not entirely sure how to read this, yet I’m noting it for future reference all the same. Actually starting the ISO, what shook me how little I remembered their posts, despite there being over 100 of them. It consists of mainly one-or-two-liners, while still making reads. I still stand by liking their questions, and that she’s poking at things occasionally in a rather towny way.

After this readthrough, I actually don’t like any of the top wagons. Instead, I’m going to vote a slot I find individually scummy as I refuse to place a vote on a wagon I do not agree with. Illwei has been so hedgy it’s blinding me, it seems they’re trying to keep all options available in the hopes of getting a mislynch off today, they were entirely too focused on whether GGhana was “new” or not early-game, and I don’t agree with sulit in particular’s townread of them.
/vote Illwei @Arete

SDA - Voting gorta because low content

@SirDerpsAlot

Gorta hasn’t posted like any content

I don’t have much atm if I’m being honest I was out basically all day today

Mist - Voting gorta for self-prez, as well as an earlier read saying that gorta was actively trying to not contribute... basically - also thought it was weird there was resistance on his wagon because "lowposting"

@Mistyx

/vote gorta

clearly read the thread given how far apart those posts were

only engaged with ben, and non-seriously

both of those would be ~fine on their own but together it’s a yikes

@Mistyx

again, i don’t take issue with you not making serious posts

i do take issue with you singing out two non-serious posts to respond to like this

@Mistyx

let’s bring it back now

what happened to the gorta wagon

people just randomly seemed uncomfortable with wagoning him because he’s lowposting which is ??? reason to not want to punt someone

Leafia - Voting gorta for self-prez, essentially sheeped GGhana

@Leafia

@GGhana

honestly i know my tinfoil derailed the thread just a few hours ago but I cant resist. Why did gorta immediately dip if he said he had a lot of free time and was reading the thread?

A very good question here.

/vote Gorta @Arete

Whysper - Voting gorta to save Mist and because they don't think that even if they're town that they'll do anything other than be LHF... essentially matches up with my vote

@Whysper

Yeah, I don’t understand the votes on Misty. Though I’m not confident on Gorta being wolf, I think he’s going to be suspected later and don’t think he’s going to get around to adding much. This vote is more to help preserve Misty.

/vote Gorta

@Whysper

@Aelin

Idea

/vote Shrek

I would have preferred this too, but I don’t think we have enough votes. I don’t want Misty getting yeeted.

People I liked based off of this: demoknight, sulit, Whysper
People I don’t really care about based off of this: Illwei, ScaledSlinky, Mist
People I didn’t like based off of this: PokemonKidRyan, Benjamin_Shapiro, GGhana, SDA
Special Cases: Shrek_Gurl_12 - Weren’t around for EoD, seem to have strong opinions on the wagons, says they’ll do wagonomics… still waiting on these wagonomics, Leafia - Self-prez’d on gorta, but continued on with him as an exe even after she was no longer in danger of being executed with… not really any reasoning. However, see below

Other Conclusions ™: I really didn’t like the Leafia wagon at EoD, specifically PKR and ATNoName.
SDA’s read strength and push strength don’t match up whatsoever.
Whysper had about the same thought process as I did.

Only open if you're Chemist1422

I think this is the part where you confbias yourself into “Light is being serious, lockscum” :^)

[Aelin]

I’m here, I was doing something, sorry 'bout that (lucky you caught me at the end of it lol)

[Whysper]

Ahh okay. I suspected you were typing up something long.

[Aelin]

Eh
Basically
Long story short: Leafia prob town, you’re now my strongest TR headpat

[Whysper]

Ahh okay. I’m going through your list. Though I think you might want to review Demo again. I’m beginning to suspect him. He’s certainly death-tunneling Ghana (who I think is town).

[Whysper]

Demo really dropped off in activity. Occasionally making short comments here and there. I get the feeling that he’s trying to go UTR. He’s still in the top 3 posters, but that’s mostly from a big jumpstart. He’s hardly done anything since then.

[Aelin]

The analysis at the end is not overall reads
That is analysis purely based on the vote and its reasoning

@Aelin

based off of this

@Aelin

based off of this

@Aelin

based off of this

thought i had hammered this point in but i guess not