[VFM] Town vs Bandits - Day 5 (4/13) - Bandits Win!

also will like

maybe isn’t a wolf?

the problem is that if he’s a wolf I’ll feel like the biggest fucking moron who walked on this planet but like he isn’t entirely wolfy?

gghana stuff:

other thing:

like this is quintessential weird wind stuff i only see her doing as a villager, the way she solves around her own slot and expects people to interact with her reflects the villagery sense of entitlement i’m used to from her

i expect her posts to be better tomorrow, and if not then i’ll have to re-evaluate but i think this is probably v wind

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I agree with this

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she did a reaction test?

@staypositivefriend you wanted my thoughts about alice iirc

Here we go, these are the posts I was looking for.

  1. This is probably a dumb take but I don’t think a wolf would bring up posting a joycat as something important. It’s just so weirdly mundane, and I know this wasn’t the reason Proph was saying Vulgard is wolfy but it’s just a weird thing to point out specifically in your partner’s iso. I feel like it’s a thing that a wolf wouldn’t want to bring attention to on another wolf because although it kind of works toward distancing, it also discredits your partner’s post which seems counterproductive.

  2. Look at what Vulgard is saying in the post I quoted from him. I could see a villager calling out a player of any alignment for this, and I could possibly also see a wolf jumping on a villager for this, but I just don’t think a wolf wants to bring to the thread’s attention that their partner isn’t actually reading their posts.

Admittedly maybe my reasons are stupid because this sort of post is something that I could consider partnered since Proph is giving Vulgard some wiggle room, but idk.

On a side note idk why I’m slotted as v when I made like one or two drunk posts and dipped

Does my explanation make sense now?

It was kinda bad lol

my other problem with wind is that she seems significantly more subdued than i’d expect from her v game
look at the way she presents her reads, like the one just above

anyway, there’s actually something else i’d like to bring up, and it’s about prophylaxis(us)

him asking me questions about my reasoning, when those questions are answered in the same posts he’s voicing concerns over, still puzzles me

i can’t confidently say he wouldn’t actually read what i’m posting as a wolf, but i know he thinks highly of his v game and i assume he’d actually read what i’m saying as a villager

the question is, did he genuinely miss it, or is it on purpose? it happened twice. and it also happened in weird instances. the posts he alluded to weren’t wallposts, my reasoning was trivial to find in both.

every time i read this post i cringe
think this is pretty self-explanatory

no comment on chloe’s alignment
i can’t interpret this as anything other than forced when like, this is such an unnatural thought to have and they do not use it at all to push the game in any direction

this guy isn’t new, by the way. lol. i’d be willing to give him a pass for the previous post because i can see how a newbie villager may be more inclined to point things out as “strange” without actually knowing how or feeling a need to link this to an alignment, but this confirms my suspicions

this post is bad because it makes no attempt to distinguish who the wolves are that could be pushing him. it’s an easy way to deflect wolfreads without having to antagonise people or poke at anyone in particular

so assuming the fact that will isn’t actually new, if he’s a wolf does this mean that he TMI’ed his partners as not like, eli, emilia? i don’t know what else this post says but lol

willtaylor is not new and the reasons for townreading vulgard are at a level of ambiguity to the point where, since i’m now more open to the idea of vulgard villaging, i wouldn’t put this past being TMI

[quote=“willtaylor, post:941, topic:89035”]
I like Alice’s voice. She’s also correct with this

i’m not sure what to make of alice agreeing that he’s wolfy (since he’s not new) but i do think typically agreeing with wolfreads on you is >rand w. this is a pretty unusual topic so i don’t really have any experience other than from myself and i usually agree with wolfreads on me when i am a wolf, so idk what else i can really say about this
feel good about the way he spoke about leafia in this post as it comes across more as self-centred solving

huh
this is like, really contrasted to the way he was incredibly self-aware in the first post i quoted to the point where it kind of looks forced.
hear me out, if willtaylor is a villager here then it’s clear from his first post that he’s self-aware regardless. the fact that this post now… isn’t, made me think of a really stupid possibility. whoever pointed out that his post was self-aware in the first place may have coached the guy in wolfchat to make less self-aware posts such as this. idk who that was but it’s food for thought


i’d be willing to give this slot a pass if it was new
spoiler alert: it’s not new and it’s a wolf

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I think you are more likely to be a wolf because I think windward is less likely to be a wolf

@Arctic @GGhana My reasons for townreading proph aren’t bad and i’m extremely confident. The angle he is pushing vulgard is an angle i can ONLY see a villager taking.

Go back and look at the quote from Chloe, the fact that he took note of chloe having to go out of her way to copy+paste the wowee shows extreme depth of thought and isn’t how a wolf would cast doubt on chloe imo.

This too, it’s an inconsistency from vulgard that not even I would have noticed when isoing him. It’s probably the biggest reason i still scumread Vulgard

This quote too, you can like
feel the aggression
Proph knows he is on to something and is pushing it like he is backing Vulgard into a corner, he is just town.

I mean I’m not going to shout from on top of a mountain that I’ve solved the game if I went back to reread and it made me think more tbh

As much as I’d like to claim I have the game solved, realistically I’ve barely been in the thread and I think there are a couple of players who are making decent cases that I think are town

That’s what I do early in the game if I don’t know where to start. I’m much more effective at townclearing some players in the process of solving first, which then leaves me with a PoE that I can then narrow down.

why

wolves can push people for dumb reasons too

It isn’t dumb
dumb is how you push people
What proph is doing is trying to get into the mindset of the person who is making the post, it is solving only a villager can do

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(Yes i felt the need to immediately roast you rather than just waiting, for real though my next 2 posts have to be at least responding to like 10+ things and i’ll probably only make my final post when i’m completely set and unwilling to change my vote for today)

Leafia

arctic

Proph

Chloe

Alice

Eli

Vulgard

SPF

the thing is all of the wolves are in these people

and most likely in the first five

So like if proph is v who the fuck are the wolves

/vote willtaylor @Wazza

i won’t be here at eod and i’ll be gone from like 4 hours before eod
gonna go for a bit but i should be back once more before i’m off for the day

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wait what
how are me and leafia here but not like emilia eli or willtaylor
also i thought you wolfread marl?

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i reiterate that my biggest problem with will is his emilia read, because it looks really out of place. the confidence behind it seems to be coming from nowhere, and his attachment to it also seems odd, considering his general lack of presence in the thread. it’s also not something i’d expect a villager to say when wolfreading emilia (how can you tell she’s “fake?” on what basis?), which brings to mind the possibility of tmi.

i’ve explained why i considered the arctic/chloe/spf world already, but apparently i have to keep repeating myself for all eternity. i briefly thought about it, because arctic w would invalidate my spf/chloe not w/w read. however, i ended up concluding that my village read on arctic was too strong for that to be realistic, so i dropped it entirely.

it’s not an inconsistency whatsoever and i’m not sure why anyone is calling it such.

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you see

I have this god tier thread read

all of the wolves are guaranteed to be at start of day

also marl is obviously villaging

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Voted Voters Count
willtaylor Leafia, EliThePsycho, Arctic 3
WindwardAway Alice, staypositivefriend, Chloe 3
Alice Vulgard, Emilia 2
Vulgard Prophylaxis, Marluxion 2
Emilia willtaylor 1
GGhana Leafia 1
Prophylaxis GGhana 1
Not Voting WindwardAway 1

Majority is disabled for today. Ping me for votes. Day ends at 2021-08-30T20:00:00Z