ok yeah actually i do see this but i feel like wind is the one providing most of the awkwardness in that interaction so i’m not too concerned
anyway i’m gonna look over wisp’s iso IRL tomorrow
MARL INTERACTIONS WITH WISP/WWA
’m using these next 3 posts just to point out some stuff i find odd in Windy’s posting so far
I’m saving my last 10 posts specifically to interact with arctic because i want to rub in his face how towny i am before i get capped
I do still greatly prefer vulgard over wwa atm but i’m not all the way through windy’s posts yet, just read her whole wallpost and some of the reactions to it
wallpost about windy being w/w with vulgard and being a wolf
i’ll admit my bias of thinking vulgard is a wolf played a big part in why i found windy’s catchup wallpost really wolfy but still
her catchup is just
unbelievably underwhelming
literally me the one time i was sick at the start of deck mafia 1 and was salty i had missed my chance to make my way out of the poe due to irl (i was mafia)
Still think Vul is a better vote than Windy
Will be able to solve windy much more accurately when we can like
actually interact
ALSO
MY LAST 9 POSTS
are dedicated to taunting arctic when he gets into thread
Also Windy’s latest posts have felt a bit better honestly and i’m still dead certain vulgard is wolfing, especially given his attack on windy
I think you are more likely to be a wolf because I think windward is less likely to be a wolf
Aaaa I forgot to mention Windy!!! And yes I also think her last like 15 or so posts have felt genuine and not like wolfy wind at all. I would not die on this read and it can change a lot depending on her future posts when we both have posts to live interact. It does kinda feel strange Chloe boasted a godread on wind and didn’t go back to actually look at her posts herself though.
Also windy’s reaction post i saw earlier was really really wolfy
hink windy and will are probably 2 wolves
windy especially i’m pretty sure made it a point how they agreed with vulgard yesterday
town windy has no reason to pivot and land the kill on vulgard especially when she knew he wasn’t here
/vote WindwardAway @Wazza
i’m like
positive she’s a wolf now
windy dies today and will dies tomorrow and tomorrow we claim en masse
I’m more certain of wind than will
thats how confident i am she is a wolf
the move onto vulgard does not track even remotely with how she played earlier in d1 and her entire tone this game is near identical to PJO when she was in a rough spot as mafia
Also no offense but I trust my instincts in how to read in Windy more than I would trust basically any of your reads
100% convinced windy was a wolf but i can give wisp at least one more day
/unvote @Wazza
IM MAKING THIS REALLY BIG SO MARL CAN FIND IT @Marluxion WHAT CHANGED BETWEEN HERE AND HERE THAT MADE WILL THE BETTER KILL
also smart play today is to kill Will first, not Wisp. Imo.
yes it does
the entire case on you is predicated on your slot and willtaylor being w/w
there is no reason we can’t kill will first because in worlds where will is town you could also be town
people say windward was tonally off too but tone reads are unreliable at best
wind voting vulgard despite townreading arctic and vulgard means she probably did it to save a scum mate (predominantly, will)
wisp you’re already outposting willtaylor so if you are both town i would rather willtaylor die instead of you
wind, despite having arctic as her top town, wanted to sheep a townread so voted with ghana onto vulgard
which resulted in vulgard dying over will
Who is the third wolf if it’s Wind/Will though? I dont think either wind or will night kills katze before they have a chance to sub in
Eli voting when he didn’t have to is probably AI pointing towards town though
Sad not a lot happened today but imo Sulit is conftown atm
Sulit is the only person in the player list who I think would hard Veto a katze kill last night
/vote Will Taylor @Wazza
I sleep
This is just the correct vote
I think both sulit and I enjoy playing with Kat enough to protest against fear killing them
except his conclusions are dogshit and dont track at all
his readslist reeks of agenda
Wisp hasn’t really even had a chance to be whelming yet
we were decided on will yesterday from the get go
also i dont think windy does what she did as a wolf now
I already said yesterday if will is town windy had no reason to swap their vote to vulgard as a wolf
absolutely none
hat isn’t how wolf windy plays when the wagons are v/v/v
windy doesn’t shit in the pot when everything is going fine if she’s a wolf
and he sets up immediately well for the me tunnel if wisp flips v here
Scum Windward has no reason to play EOD like they did if the wagons were v/v/v
it is not even a read on wisp
if emilia is the wolf and it’s prophy/wisp/emilia then i guess the eod did actually make sense
didn’t wind swap from will to vulgard, not emilia to vulgard?
W/W wagons at eod
neither had any choice but to bus really
I HAVE DISCOVERED A TELL
I think
look up “@windwardaway actually” in this game, ciconia and upick
it does happen way way more often in this game and upick than in ciconia though
do i think there is any world where there are no wolves voting wisp right now
Only in exactly the Wisp/Eli/Prophy team exactly
Prophy calling Wisp and me w/w does make sense if he’s planning to set me up for miselimination tomorrow if he’s partnered with wisp
wisp immediately turned and tried to throw suspicion onto me though
Still am pretty confidently on the Marl town train
I gotta go eat dinner but I can go look through these more closely and explain afterwards
@Marluxion I pinged you with a question in the middle of it
there are some random posts in here that I quoted because i tho ught they were towny so I could find them later
I have now wasted iso time trying to show marl is town instead of just trying to clear my poe
weh
good analysis from arctic
I’ll be around a little more later tonight to take a second look at those interactions
the thing that I’m not sure if wisp would do if he was a wolf with Ghana though is when wisp replaced in I think he called Ghana’s approach horrible or something, and Ghana kinda lashed out at him (?)
need to recheck how that went down
the thing that I’m not sure if wisp would do if he was a wolf with Ghana though is when wisp replaced in I think he called Ghana’s approach horrible or something, and Ghana kinda lashed out at him (?)
yeah idk, off the top of my head it kind of looked like he was looking down on gghana there in a sort of mocking way
btw has anyone else noticed that the up arrow button that moves you to the post a post is replying to has now been fixed, but the down arrow button is now broken instead
btw has anyone else noticed that the up arrow button that moves you to the post a post is replying to has now been fixed, but the down arrow button is now broken instead
outstanding move discourse people
No idea.
It does.
GGhana’s entire tunnel on Proph and going apeshit with you over Will almost never comes from a wolf as wolves don’t give a shit about their TRs
What do you make of Ghana just dropping that townread on will (but still being argumentative about it) when D2 started? IIRC he was extremely against lunching will on Day 1, but he dropped that townread D2 and I’m wondering why exactly (in posts 1926, 1936, 1944)?
Though reading Ghana’s 1966 again I’m not 100% sure that the the slot is wolfing tbh
Some of those later posts look extremely wolfy if you think about th eff m. Why do you think Marl is a villager?
Proposed wolfteams rn?
would like to see marl answer this question
Proph POEing both me and t!Marl
I mean, if you have any other ideas, I’d be willing at least consider them
Windward/Wisp interactions:
I don’t know if I agree with Arctic’s takes but he’s doing a thing I’ve only seen him do as a villager so far, so I feel pretty good about his slot rn. I think his defense of himself looks more or less ok even though I don’t think Marl’s posts look as bad as Arctic seemed to be saying they did.
Think the roundabout way she wrote this (“he’s doing a thing I’ve only seen him do as a villager so far”) is her TMIing Arctic v. Also like how Arctic just immediately hounds her as she enters the thread; don’t think Arctic would do this if he was a wolf with Wind.
Marl yet, and the weird thing is that he didn’t seem to really be concerned that he wasn’t obvtowning himself. Part of me wants to call it towny for not caring, but jumping to the conclusion that he’d get voted out today was also weird. I think I also have an easier time reading him when we’re interacting live in the thread so I’m not too concerned yet. Off the top of my head I wouldn’t want to vote him out today anyway because I think I need more time to solve his slot, and I’m probably saying this because I was dead for half the day phase so kekw
*I don’t have a solid read on Marl yet
I’m not sure if scum!Windward ever fencesits/hedges on her buddies, but her Marl stuff is basically just a giant fencesit.
has anyone taken GGhana’s takes seriously yet? why does it sound like you’re trying to shut down what he said? sorry if I didn’t read enough to know the answer to this, but I’m curious.
Does Windward normally just bring up one of her buddies unprompted into this discussion here?
tbf I haven’t said much of value because I’m incredibly late to the game and am still strategizing on what to look at first
like I want to look through your interaction with Proph because I haven’t actually seen enough of his posts or your case on him to know how much water it holds
what i’ve seen is chloe saying you feel like you’re alone in the thread and that people are ignoring your reads, so i wanted others’ input on whether that’s a correct assessment or not, before reading through your posts myself.
i think a lot of times it’s good to ask others’ opinions first because i will still form my own opinion, and inevitably judge those players for how well-founded i think their interpretations are.
This is Windward responding to Ghana saying that he glazed over most of her posts
meh
think this response is overly wordy and… nervous? about a random callout ITT. In retrospect I should have probably caught onto it earlier
it’s interesting that GGhana has a scumread on Proph and yet didn’t comment at all on my response to SPF where I said my strongest scumread is Proph
Inclined to agree with Arctic here
This kind of set-up/frame combined with the emoji reads as kinda soft-shade and an indirect callout to Ghana. I feel like… if they were wolf buddies, they would be a little more direct than this?
Then there are the WW/Ghana softball interactions that kind of just ended up with Ghana townreading Wind.
This post looks like it’s trying to accomplish exactly that
this is a dumb read but windward doing the thinking emoji to will kinda makes me think that she’s not partnered with the ghana slot
like, the way she’s done it both times reads as trying to cast doubt on the people she’s doing it towards but in a very non-commital way
She seems pretty natural in the thread from what I saw when interacting with her earlier, and from what I’m reading now. Usually if she’s a wolf she has trouble hiding her TMI and the way she’s developing her reads does not look like she has TMI or an agenda right now.
Feels like another TMI of Leafia v.
I think it’s worth noting that Alice was the first person to point out WW’s wolfy posts and vote her, so if this was a bus then I feel like it’d have to be preplanned
Emilia:/vote WWA @Wazza
fine with this one
and what’s your read on me?
hm
if emilia is voting windward, then shouldn’t it be pretty obvious what emilia thinks of windward’s alignment? lol
wait, since when did Alice become a wagon?
? does she just call out one of her wolfbuddies as “suddenly being a wagon” lol? feels like this panic would be reserved for something in wolfchat, right?
also I don’t think alice was ever a wagon
Okay if Vulgard is town then who are the wolves? You will never convince me the entire team is in Eli/Will/Emilia. That list has 0 to 1 wolves in it, tops. Leafia I still don’t really townread and the only one who did is Alice. Leafia was also doing a ton of hyping up Alice (I called it simping at the time), so maybe the two could be partnered? I’ve also ‘cleared’ SPF fairly easily today just because they haven’t really felt like they’re pushing Agenda. If people think But Vulgard is town I still think Prophy is town, so where does that leave us?
I saw that you were dead certain Proph is town, but I didn’t really like how he didn’t even address the fact that I put him as scummier than Vulgard for a while despite being in the thread at the same time as me. I get that he was probably focused on GGhana since both of them were just going back and forth, but the lack of interaction with me while I was in the thread last night was kinda weh. I wasn’t in the best of moods but I still wanted to talk with people if they were willing to, it just seemed like nobody really was except for Arctic so I gave up.
this interaction is also pretty softball-y and Marl’s tone in particular when addressing windward is very different when talking to everybody else
GGhana is most likely town btw, because while my own read on Proph wasn’t as strong as I was making it out to be I think his case was actually decent up to a point where it just kind of felt like a back-and-forth in the thread that stopped making progress. However I think the way he tackled formulating his read in the first place made sense, it’s just that I feel like he got confbiased after that which is why I said it wasn’t productive after a while.
hmm
~feels like this is windward talking about another townie?
I’m cool with sheeping Arctic
I’m also cool with sheeping GGhana
And Arctic is voting will but GGhana is vetoing itUhhhh
would Windward just say she’s cool with sheeping one of her wolfbuddies?
Alice:WWA feels kinda frozen, ngl.
Bruh I’m at dinner
don’t think WW makes this response to a buddy? kinda weak though
GGhana I think outlined some points I thought were reasonable but today he’s deadass obvtowned himself as far as i’m concerned because of his SoD thread interaction today
this does feel like TMI honestly
I saw exactly one post from Marl in his ISO when i went over it last night that sold me on him being v, because it sounded like he had a fire ignited inside him to solve the game, and from then on his posts looked massively improved from his early game.
in contrast to the above, this feels like an attempt to shove a buddy into the “would not wagon” list
so the big thing I came out with this is that… sulit/ghana don’t /appear/ to be aligned with windward? I know I’m basically staking the read off of an emoji and a couple of posts but the fact that they used the thinking emoji on both will and ghana just FEELS to me like she wanted to cast doubt on them without getting her hands dirty
but then who is the 3rd wolf in wisp/marl wolf worlds?
here were the posts in question from wisp re: ghana slot btw
Is that what he implied? And in all honesty your treatment and case of Proph, his posts are good, he knows how to write posts regardless of his alignment. The biggest problem is that he is too calculated, he lingered on Vulgard for too long, and didn’t re-evaluate him till it was too late, and his vote just didn’t move enough. I just don’t believe he is a timely solving this game even given all the word salads he wrote
Your treatment and case was garbage, forgot a word
Lmao imagine reading your own posts and thinking this.
And? Lol
Honestly I don’t wanna bump heads with Ghana right now. Spf made a good post on why he is probably town. And I don’t tend to see wolves that are able to play this aggressive, those were my thoughts when I was talking to myself at least
Does anyone have wolf/town games of Ghana?
Did u say I agree with anyone of your points? I think if u are correct in Proph you are correct for the wrong reasons, unless one of your points is that he feels like a fish out of water.
Because if your argument is, that he made a bad case on Vulgard, then it doesn’t really mean anything to me
Either way I will go find his town case on you
Interesting. Very interesting.
what is exactly interesting about it? do you have any comments or feedback on my analysis?
It’s just interesting to see how Wind and Wisp interacted with people and analyzing it I think is a villagery look for you.
do you agree with me that Ghana/windward interactions point to the Ghana/sulit slot not being a wolf? what are your thoughts?
technically arctic did the analysis first btw, I just wanted to take a look at her posts myself
Hmmm, I’m not so sure. I still think GGhana/Sulit could possibly be a wolf, although I’m willing to trust Alice’s judgement on Sulit’s slot for now. My thoughts are that GGhana did look like he possibly had TMI on Will being a villager at EoD 1. If he was really that certain that Will was a villager, why’d his read on Will do a 90 degree turn so quickly at SoD 2? He wentfro.m having Will in his towncore/never a wolf pile to having him null extremely quickly and it just doesn’t feel natural to me.