Watch Your Mouth!: Sophomore Year (3/17) - Day 5 - Planters (Mafia) Win!

[katze]

@Appelsiini

You still haven’t explained your behavior from yesterday that I accused you for.

quote it

@Appelsiini

Question time. Could you summarize your thought process for me during that 180?

quote it i dont remember the 180 tbh

@Appelsiini

Is the actual reason you’re so supposedly hard to read because you don’t let others see your thought process, even as a villager?

id say it’s a fairly notable one

given the games i tried extra hard to explain my thought process are games people have found me as obvious town (sfol61/sorta 61.5/maybe even 62 come to mind)

[Appelsiini]

@katze

quote it i dont remember the 180 tbh

??
Kat are you okay

@katze

fuck PKRs posts this game i literally had to ISO that guy in 4 different games just to come to a conclusion and then AN HOUR LATER I CHANGE MY MIND

You wrote a post to arrive at a conclusion and changed your mind
It is called a 180

@katze

quote it

@Appelsiini

@katze

i have townreads

The problem is that you’re spending your time shading them.

@Appelsiini

What are you trying to achieve by making it obvious to anyone who reads your posts? What you have been saying has had the goal of “making people aware this is what I’m doing” rather than actually achieving the thing.

I believe this is where it started, I have been mentioning this the whole time.

@katze

given the games i tried extra hard to explain my thought process are games people have found me as obvious town (sfol61/sorta 61.5/maybe even 62 come to mind)

Why are you not doing that here
Why are you keeping your thought process a secret

[katze]

@Appelsiini

@katze

quote it i dont remember the 180 tbh

??
Kat are you okay

@katze

fuck PKRs posts this game i literally had to ISO that guy in 4 different games just to come to a conclusion and then AN HOUR LATER I CHANGE MY MIND

You wrote a post to arrive at a conclusion and changed your mind
It is called a 180

…lmao

appel i am smartn’t

so basically i was like “huh PKRs posts this game are kinda lacking” and then i went through multiple games (insurgency/cfm2 for scumgames, skimmed a bit of fol28 but decided evil 3p wasnt the same, and then wild west, fol30, and tos2 for towngames)

and my first thought was “wow how the fuck do people read this guy” and i kept going and going

and then i noticed he was just kinda not doing anything this game which didn’t feel strictly AI

i felt like a few of his posts felt noncommittal and overall just “im posting to post” which felt sorta aligned with the wolf games

he also had a hateboner for seth which i thought was funny but not AI

but then i found a few posts of his that felt somewhat aligned with how it looked like he made reads in his town games

primarily his reads on derps

it feels like he's actually trying to start a CFD here and i don't think PKR is much of a busser? aldo dont think this was a time it'd make sense for PKR to bus derps

@PokemonKidRyan

Yeah, that kinda is the plan and I get your anger towards me.

SDA all day has been voting without backing up what they are saying. I do not think I have seen town derps do this so it is a very baseline meta read but I do not like the slot and think we should CFD to it.

/Vote SirDerpsAlot

@PokemonKidRyan

@SirDerpsAlot

Sorry was busy last day

Iv kinda read thread but not really

/Vote PKR

@SirDerpsAlot

/vote insanity

@SirDerpsAlot

/Vote alice

Fuck it

Not a single explanation attached to a wagon.

SDA only voted Alice too after saying they do not like the Insanity wagon build.

It makes me think that SDA is a wolf trying to seem like town by going against what others think so much.

@PokemonKidRyan

Are we really going for Insanity over SDA here when SDA EoD atm is actually kinda horrendous?

@PokemonKidRyan

The worry is if people continue to read Derps in this way, Derps will always live and the game with hinge on whether that slot is somehow town or actually scum just continuing to DERP about

@PokemonKidRyan

At times

Boy you are kind

Anyway EoD is coming up and I am not sure on what will happen, I think a town flip incoming

so it’s kind of not really a meta read at that point PKR was obviously super uninvolved in this game

although he wrote pretty similarly formatted posts to this in one of the towngames i looked at, fuck if i remember which one

@PokemonKidRyan

Whys Wall

As you are all aware, I have been someone who has decided to stay back and relax in this game, but today, since we are not far off losing is when I am deciding to come forth and lead us as much as I can.

I will explain today why Whysper is innocent despite being an easy ML bait target.

The first post or posts if they are not long after each other are things that players seem to always think
about. The entrance post is absolutely relaxed. Whys seems to know some of what has happened by does not try to solidify herself as any focal point whereas I would expect scum to want at least some level of presence.

This is the most questionable post in my opinion because Whys is just going along with Marshal which is not bad in itself but she uses it as a way to claim which really erks me. Although it is obvious scum would only claim regular student, unless they were overtly gutsy and about to die, it does reduce the pool for the honour student and I think scum would have thought this through beforehand as it could be taken as scummy. TWTBAW esque post.

The fact that Whys posts something like this instead of trying to attach any indication of whether Derps is acting one way or the other seems really good to me. At this point Whys basically is following my exact thought process of being town due to scum likely having it together and being able to stop these types of sus posts. Not to mention that her reads almost contradict what she was saying earlier. As she liked Appel for considering Alice and Marshal Wolf worlds and then has both in town core which seems… weirdly inconsistent from where their mind was before.

The only world from this that I can see W!Whys is with an inactive wolf partner or an inexperienced one.

This is honestly the best post by Whysper imo. It really is not much on its own, but it was followed up (Albeit in a horrendous manner) in a way which I think T!Whys would follow. Case A, B and C follow up are really good, but were spoiled by the inclusion of a lot of self meta which is why I say it is horrendous, however, she at least explains some thought process too.

Not long after it is followed by a reads list which actually highlights their views during the “Cases” that she had made before. I wish that she had actually explained the read on me some more or revisited it more recently but I think it is reasonable from a town perspective

She has had a weird tone today but I do not think that W!Whys goes for risky things like a scum team read on Alice and Marsh which is followed up by Alice flipping town and the rest is history with Whys changing a bit since

@Appelsiini

I believe this is where it started, I have been mentioning this the whole time.

so basically i was gonna try to fake a scumread on vul and then it became kinda real and then it wasn’t and then it was obvious it was fake so i kept pretending it was something overly convoluted but at some point i stopped faking shit and was just pretending it was fake

lmao

@Appelsiini

Why are you not doing that here
Why are you keeping your thought process a secret

1. doing it requires a LOT of wim, which i don’t have for this game
2. i don’t really want it to become a standard for me (i don’t want to get SPKed when i signup for games :wowee:)
3. i don’t consider it that fun because the way my brain works is fucking weird and writing my thoughts in a comprehensible way is difficult
4. i find it fun to be ominous sometimes

[katze]

i kinda wish i asked marshal how to read PKR before he died tho cause i feel like im missing something

:wowee:

[katze]

@katze

so basically i was gonna try to fake a scumread on vul and then it became kinda real and then it wasn’t and then it was obvious it was fake so i kept pretending it was something overly convoluted but at some point i stopped faking shit and was just pretending it was fake

lmao

i considered keeping the wallpost just to have a very convincing fake post but i just stopped caring and couldn’t really find it in me to bullshit a post to such extents

i still think he has wolf equity dont get me wrong but like

not to that extent

[katze]

i did include this song in the post i wanted people to listen to it while they read along

i have reasons to townread all 3 of you this game sucks

[katze]

i could maybe try to write a post and dump my genuine thoughts but

ugh

it’s a genuine struggle im not sure how i managed it in 61

maybe i should reread it and try to remember how i was thinking

[katze]

@katze

i hope to take this game slightly more seriously than i take most games, at least from an exterior glance (since my shell doesn’t really represent my actual thought process at times) and maybe i can actually become more than a shitposting memer for once

this is admittedly a lot harder said than done

ah yes this is a good start

what happened to that katze where did they go

[katze]

why did i say i wanted to be serious that game then spend like half of D1 claiming alch

how did i turn it into a somewhat useful RT

weird

anyway if i survive to f3 ill probably try a bit harder to explain thoughts

depends where my mental state and motivation are tbh

cause im not getting misyeeted at f3

that is something i promise to myself

and this isn’t a wolf!katze mentality, i can probably find full length games to back this point up but recency bias is telling me that a turbo i played literally today supports that pretty fucking well, just look at how i played D4 and D5 (LyLo), instead of scumcasing anybody i was primarily focused on making sure i was obvious town granted i was annoyed because i should have been blatant town that game but meh

i am near unmisyeetable when it matters and i don’t plan on adding another exception to the very small list of exceptions to that rule

[Vulgard]

i don’t think appel is the wolf still
i’m reading this as katze vs whysper

while i appreciate that whysper is posting more now, and while i apologize if whysper’s town, i think that kat is townier right now

whysper’s iso of appel was more a recap of what appel did instead of an analysis, at least that’s how i read the post

and like kat said, in a world where whysper is scum, derps is the one who came up with the leafia nightkill and whysper just does it but can’t really write wifomposts about it

[katze]

tbh i think im snapvoting whoever isnt whypser in LyLo so if im wrong i get to blame moleland and all the villagers who ignored alice and if im right i get to call alice a loser

[katze]

glgl

[katze]

like it’s pretty simple

i am incapable of deepwolfing so the fact i am even considered a villager here should mean im lock villager

anyone who votes me literally ever from this point forward is gamethrowing and honestly cringe

[katze]

the day i manage to take an entire FM game seriously is the day i take over the forums

even on EightySecond i still broke character to call seth a failure

[katze]

anyway if any of you nerds come back around in the next… ~90 minutes

ping me

[Vulgard]

@katze

tbh i think im snapvoting whoever isnt whypser in LyLo so if im wrong i get to blame moleland and all the villagers who ignored alice and if im right i get to call alice a loser

is this a fake post or not

[katze]

im offended you have to ask

[katze]

like the obvious answer is i get SPKed tonight and if i am SPKed i cannot snapvote

if the wolf makes the mistake of not SPKing me then i will [REDACTED]

[Vulgard]

i’m offended you still think it’s okay to screw me over
what if you’re villa and i just vote you for being a liar (because it’s a valid reason to vote someone) and then we lose the game if you get hammered

[Vulgard]

@katze

i am incapable of deepwolfing so the fact i am even considered a villager here should mean im lock villager

anyone who votes me literally ever from this point forward is gamethrowing and honestly cringe

posts like these are just
ok