I will fight you on this
When have mandatory minimums ever helped anyone
this is one of the few awards i’ve actually won on MU too :^)
which is why i wanna hydra with katze eventually
2 Likes
Minimums don’t help a situation since most people who will be repeat offenders will get themselves banned pretty fast afterwards
While people who learn from their mistakes will often be inordinately punished
I’m against mandatory minimums irl but here I think people are more willing to break the rules when the punishment for it is often very light. That’s my take.
if moderation was restructured then whatever but currently basically all non-requested signup bans are knowingly breaking the rules and doing it anyways, or being warned about doing that exact thing and then doing it anyways, if people know they’ll be punished but do it anyways then it’s proof that the system doesn’t deter rulebreaks
Being bit more strict but able to adapt to situation. That would be good, but isn’t priority.
Right now there were situations when mod said about not giving a fuck about rule breaks.
That’s what should be fixed first.
1 Like
first malicious rulebreak should be a 3 monther imo
but i’m perfectly fine with leaving this to mod discretion since i trust all of their judgement
I’m of the opinion that we’re invariably going to break rules occasionally, so the best thing to do is to be harsh but fair
We need to understand that a lot of people on this forum are immature teenagers in the decisions made regarding punishment, and that reason often works to solve things
it shouldn’t
there are some issues behind-the-scenes that we’ve been working on, and ‘not caring about rulebreaks’ is an opinion that a mod shouldn’t possess
situation is being handled internally
2 Likes
people get warned, I don’t think i’ve seen a modlog for a signup ban ever for a first-time unknowing offense
Because empirically what I think is happening is that you have two categories
- strong emotional response
- blatant ignorance
2 is something that should be actively made sure doesn’t happen, and I’ve no reservations with punishments there
1 is a different topic because handling it incorrectly can damage the community
Yeah, happened more than once tho.
This plus Geyde is right - rules should be more… regular?
Borderline should be somehow better described?
Right now punishments only follow if someone literally reports and pushes for it, which makes some people not understand where the border really is.
1st - emotions
2nd - not knowing the rules
First cannot be fixed, while second can be.
Punishments should be more lenient in some aspects and more strict in others.
Most rules on forum should exist mainly to discourage said behaviour at which point there is no real reason for longer punishment.
In other respect if purpose is just punishment then it should be longer for exact same reason.