Why can't Fool and Scorned frame as whatever class they like?

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#1

Like what if they got a list of every class to frame as like Facelift and Defile?

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#2

We need this so we can frame ourselves as fool as fool.

Top 10 plays.

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#3

You Frame yourself as Prince, get the real Prince executed, Hide, Frame yourself as Fool, claim Scorned target, then trollbox an Investigative claim to hang you.

100% guaranteed to work.

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#4

For clarification, it would work like this. Say Fool wants to frame himself as Neutral Killer. He would choose any of the three NKs in order to appear Neutral and Killer/Offensive. Right now, he can appear Neutral if he doesn’t frame but he would be Support/Social.

Giving him the option to frame as Unseen in a Cult game would also raise the skill floor of Fool, since if he frames the wrong faction it’s obvious.

I think it would be a bad idea to let people be framed as Blue Dragon classes though.

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#5

I think it’s a lot smarter to get an Investigative claim to check you, Frame yourself as BD, do something vaguely suspicious and THEN Frame yourself as Unseen/Cult/NK, than just doing the obvious thing.

People tend to believe lies more easily when they think they themselves have figured things out and discovered the “truth” independently. Knowing how to lie is based on fabricating the illusion of agency, power and control on people, and Framing yourself as a BD class is a way to do that.

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#6

/support for framing as any scum class

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#7

I agree with this.I want to frame myself as mastermind tbh

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#8

I disagree. Fool winrate is pretty high

#9

/support. It would be cooler if it could also affect occupation/redirection immunity(framing as sheriff would cause butlers to think occupying was successful)

Why should it be limited to scum?

It would just increase the skill needed to play fool. It wouldn’t increase the winrate that much.

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#10

Why? It would just increase the skill floor, which is a good thing. Plus you could frame players as being converted

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#11

Sheriff: “N4 Surv 10: MASTERMIND!”

10: “rip u got me guys”

10 was a Fool.

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#12

@Kirefitten you are a fucking genius!

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#13

actually for the most part if he hits the wrong faction the only thing that I can think of that would be effected is observer peak. Sheriff’s ability is “see if your target is a member of the unseen”. Meaning a fool framed as cult would technically just show as NS.

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#14

I mean they should be smart enought to understand it is unseen or cult game.And observers are not usually peek first three nights